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TOPIC: Ruins!
#39662
Re:Ruins! 4 Years, 2 Months ago  
Thanks so much everyone, I really appreciate your uplifting words, yes, it has been a terrible stretch for me, but that's Life eh? Nice to have a place to escape too here on the forums:)

Yes, I'm not concerned about the slow sales of the Ruins, I am sure it will be a "slow burner" Law's pictures are a great help! Everyone's pictures are! You guys are all really great, and I think that it's awesome being able to see what others are building here, it's inspiring...as far as the economy, I'm not worried about that too much as it's been bad for a long time and that has never seemed to have too much of an impact on us before...that's because you guys are all such loyal collectors and for that I really thank you because it allows me/us to keep making kool stuff...our Forum membership keeps getting larger every year, hurray!

One day, I'm gonna post some of my own pictures, some day soon hopefully!
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#39663
Re:Ruins! 4 Years, 2 Months ago  
I just received my Ruins sets and they are even better than I thought!! I didn't see a lot of the detail until I got my hands on them. Also, the best part of the Ruins set is that it makes for fantastic pieces for indoor settings, such as broken down walls, worn areas of a dungeon, etc.

I'll post lots of pictures once my campaign gets going (maybe in ~3 weeks). Also, I can't wait for Wicked Editions 3!!!!
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#39666
Re:Ruins! 4 Years, 2 Months ago  
Stefan, Jeff.
I'm not happy about my ruins set at all now !!
You didn't tell me the original box's size so where do I store it now mm ?? :


You also didn't give me a clear notice to make a set up too so it's hard to know how to do something :


I could add the stairs of the wicked set :


But the worst thing was to check if my central dunjeon was done correctly so I had to go up & down several times :


I just finished my haunted castle :


I could finally rest into the chapel inside :


But my players never reached the spot and ran away :


Please next time you release a ruins set II deliver us the workers with it and a lift too.


Ps to Stefan : if you need some more photos to get inspiration for your ruin set II let me know I have a lot from all catsle in ruins close to my town.
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#39667
Re:Ruins! 4 Years, 2 Months ago  
Heroquest: That's AWESOME! Great pics, looks like you had a great time. And it really does show off how cool DF is, that it matches the "originals" so well!

Stefan: I do hope my pictures, and all the pics people post, help illustrate how versatile and interesting the new set is.

Thinking about it a bit, I have two suggestions that I think might help with the sales model for DF, and both of them would be easy to implement:

1) A "difficulty level" ranking system. Already there are some sets with "advanced" in the name, but I think there could be an intermediate level, and I'd place the Ruins set in that level. "Basic" sets would be the introductory sets, and any set that lends itself less to multiple uses/tricks. The sets that provide the basic construction elements, but little else, would be basic sets.

"Intermediate" sets would be sets like the Ruins set, the Narrow Passage set, and other sets that can be used in straightforward ways, but also can be stacked in interesting ways, can have multiple uses, and so on. The advantage of an "intermediate" label would be to let introductory users know that the sets can be useful without a lot of experience or creativity, but also lets more experienced users know that the sets are designed to allow for more creative applications.

"Advanced" sets would be sets like the ABS sets, of course, but also the chasm set, that really benefit from experience, where introductory users might be able to benefit from them, but should probably get used to the modular system first, while more experienced players can really sink their teeth into the complexity of the sets. The lake expansion should go here, it's pretty tricky. The other water sets could probably be cast as intermediate sets -- or maybe the river set would be intro, but the lake set either intermediate or advanced. It's pretty easy to figure out how to just make a basic lake with it, so beginners could work it out. But anything beyond a basic circle or oval lake requires a bit more experience, so it feels like a good candidate for the intermediate level.

And so on.

2) Bundles. If you find there are sets that aren't selling as well, and want to encourage people to buy, offer a small discount on bundles of sets that form natural pairs. Bought together, save 20% off the total or something like that.

It occurred to me that Ruins and Narrow Passage sets have both been somewhat "slow burners" and they really work well together. The NP set can be a really useful support structure for higher levels, which is a good way to use the ruins set -- but it also looks good to sprinkle NP pieces around a ruined structure, since the columns standing alone further suggest the dessicated remains of a once-grand structure.

It would help move inventory, plus it would give people an incentive to buy if they're afraid that "Well, in order to get real benefit from set X, I'd also need to buy set Y, and I can't afford both." Or, even better, it would help people who have been thinking "Man, set X looks awesome with set y, but I don't know how often I'd use set y on its own, so I should be responsible." Nudge them into getting it by offering a discount when bundled. (think of how many people have said "I wasn't going to get caverns/sci-fi/hellscape/ruins, but this combination makes me think it would look great with the sets I DO buy...")


Other combinations: Cavern Set and Chasm Set, Room Set and WA or WA2 set, obviously MBS and MBS2 and ROTA and ROTA2, but also maybe Room Set and MBS as a "medieval building combo" for that great fieldstone/timber combination. Doe/Hellscape of course. Or, Hellscape/Sci-fi --> remember I posted a bunch of Hellscape sci-fi setups when HS came out, and people seemed to think it looked cool.

The real benefit, I think, would be to avoid the obvious combos like Room and WA or MBS and MBS2. Most customers willing to buy one of those would also probably buy the other. The point of bundling would be to show off unexpected interactivity, as between Narrow Passage and Ruins, or between Hellscape and Sci-Fi. (see also: Caverns and Sci-fi, for a classic "batcave" look).

It might be a good alternative, I think, to just a straightforward sale of sets that are slow movers. A way to push inventory without having to eat too much of the cost, since most of us know DF is a small company with a thin (sometimes nonexistent) profit margin.

And, hey, if it doesn't work, you haven't really lost anything, because it doesn't cost anything to advertise a bundle package sale -- especially if the point is to bundle sets you already have a backlog of inventory for. If people buy, great. If they don't, well, you tried, and you didn't have to expend any resources but the time it took to post the ad.

Just a thought,

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#39669
Re:Ruins! 4 Years, 2 Months ago  
HeroQuestFrance wrote:
But the worst thing was to check if my central dunjeon was done correctly so I had to go up & down several times :

Great pictures, HQF! Thanks for sharing.

Those of you in Europe may have to wait longer for your DF deliveries, but you have the real thing to look at in the meantime; I envy that... ;-)

The picture above inspired me to mention that I hope a ruined/damaged staircase shows up in Ruins 2 or Wicked Additions 3!
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#42428
Re:Ruins! 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Glad to hear you got your stuff back. Sorry to hear you are having a bad year. Hope things work out ok. So sell me on this set. I am mixed on it.
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#44813
Re:Ruins! 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Well this was my buy for 2011. So far I haven't had a chance to use it yet but I think it will make a great edition to the family here. The wife is using various sets for her Pathfinder game, mostly room sets and accessories. Thanks for the great work. I like most of the stuff!
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