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#38973
Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
I'm working on a Hellscape layout now (pics soon!) and I am realizing just how badly some new pieces are needed. I probably mentioned this when the set first came out, but I really am struck by it all the more as time has passed.

First, the fact that each piece has a stream of lava bisecting it both N/S and E/W means that a large layout will produce a very noticeable "grid" structure. It doesn't jump out at you with a small layout -- but larger ones definitely show it. We need pieces where the stream that comes in at the edge either (a) pools up almost immediately, or (b) stays on the edge and leaves again at another edge, rather than creeping up into the piece itself. That way, you get a little more variety, with some areas NOT bisected by streams, some little "islands" of cooled magma that don't follow the same basic dimensions.

Second, just the opposite -- no pool is ever that large. I think what would make the area more dynamic and exciting for gaming would be to have some kind of focal point (besides the volcano piece or the fountain), in the form of a larger pool of lava. Where is Frodo going to drop the ring? Where is the large demon or fire giant going to emerge from? There should be a piece that is almost entirely lava.

Other pieces to fill out an expansion set could be more dramatic, outside the set of "basic construction" pieces. But with just a few variations on the two needs described above, we could build far more organic, realistic layouts. Larger lava pools would break up the monotony AND provide some adventure hooks or gaming focal points -- larger areas of uninterrupted "land" could vary the landscape, not to mention make it easier to place loose elements like rocks or bridges or larger monsters.
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#38975
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
I agree with these, If i could get my HA back up I would make some for great utility in the Lava.

More variety in lava good and larger pools.

Heck Official repainted Cavern floors to the more black would go a long way to breaking up the grid, and rivers recast with lava could make instant products to make Hellscape awesome.
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#38991
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Maybe even a properly colored floor tile with NO lava would be useful too...?
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#38992
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
The only reason I didn't suggest a piece with no lava at all is just that the current set has lava streams that end at every edge, so a piece with no lava wouldn't "fit" with them. The stream would end abruptly, disrupting the illusion.

Two solutions would be possible: 1) the one I already suggested, where the stream stays around the edge and then leaves on another edge, so the piece is largely free of lava, 2) a small recess at the edge to suggest the lava disappearing into the earth.

I definitely think this would be cool to see....
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#38999
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
i had noticed the same.

A set with some pieces could include:

- 2x Hellscape Floor with lava streams disappering into cracks
- 2x Hellscape Floor with a Lava-River ending (two could be used as a pool)
- 2x Hellscape Floor with rocky outcrop (the streams flow in and disappear), it should be 1" high
- 2x Hellscape Straight 4" Wall (alternate design)
- 2x Hellscapre Corner 4" Wall (alternate design)
- 2x Molten Rock Formation (approx. 3x2 Squares to be placed freely)
- 2x Bulbous, glowing (from inside, so as it might explode to spray lava all around) 2"x2" rock
- 2x charred bodies (free placable)
- 1x Hellscape Straight Wall with removable Brass Doors (a bit as in Dantes Inferno)
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#39000
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
SOunds good to me - especially the brass door piece!

Stefan/Jeff - any ball-park estimate of when the next Hellscape set might be ready for porduction and/or shipment?
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#39005
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
The "buy everything/money is no object" geek in me kind of wishes for full "Hellscape Rivers" and "Hellscape Lake" sets but I suppose they would be of limited use/appeal.

I do like a lot of the suggestions in this thread- especially about having more variety among the pieces- some ending in lava pools and others havign little to no lava at all.
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#39006
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Passages are needed. The cavernous passageways are *not* the same color and they stick out when putting together 2 or more lava caverns.
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#39034
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
i don't think passages are really needed with the "new" design of hellscape (and caverns).

to make a passage you can put out a row of 4"x4" floors and put walls on both sides are there
you have a passageway.

That was the intention of the alternate walls in the above post, so you can alternate between them.
The Lavariver end pieces would be ok in this set (even if no river comes out) to form a pool.

If the river comes put you are needing more (i know this from the river set, i would like kind of
4 river dead ends by now to set up pools of water).
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#39056
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Yes, I agree that some other pieces are needed and hope to make them for next year. Please keep the suggestions coming...Floor variations are definite, and perhaps some other wall variations, straight wall, and curved...
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#39058
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Heh heh, great name, Stefan! At first, I was like "Who is this noob presumptuously asking us to keep the suggestions coming?"

Then I saw what was going on -- laughs on me!

I'm glad to hear that HSII is planned, and that these ideas are being considered. Now that I can see how effective it is to place HS under the cavernous chasm pieces, it really has started to become one of my favorite sets.
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#39063
Re:Pieces needed for Hellscape (expansion?) 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
What do you think about this:

4 X 4 Lava pieces, combined with a bunch of free placement "borders" like the chasm set ones but with volcanic formations and colors.

That way with one set you could make river and lakes of lava easily. I definitely would love a set like that. Add another Lava Wicked Additions and the deal with lava is complete...

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