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#30099
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Just got my stuff today...

Cavern set -- as before, the appearance of a layout is radically different without the bowties, though I find the difference with the cavern pieces a little less striking than with the dungeon sets, just because of the new smoothness of the dungeon pieces. The caverns do seem roomier now, though, and easier to set up. It's tough to talk about the differences, you really just have to see them. I'll have to get some pics up.

The Gamma Set...

VERY nice. I admit I'm not crazy about the beds -- partly because they're so much less flashy than the rest, partly because they don't feel quite as "sci-fiy" as they might. But everything else blew me away. The railings are great, the color is well used and they'll be fantastic and setting off areas while leaving them visible. I only wish we had straight ones. The small chairs are great. I'm still figuring out new ways to configure the consoles -- I like coming up with the most Star Wars-esque versions. :D

Too tired to be more eloquent today, but the short version is: rockin stuff, I love it,SF fans should be happy

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#30100
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Stefan spent countless hours on the set developing many pieces and trying out new things. If you love the Sci-Fi setting please thank Stefan the next time you see him. This Gamma Expansion Set would have never happen with most other companies, but Stefan felt strongly that the product really needed some cool accessories. Sometimes Stefan does stuff that does not make a lot of short-term business sense, but in the long-term I think everything he does endears his collectors with gratitude and their deep respect. I know he has mine.
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#30101
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Stefan spent countless hours on the set developing many pieces and trying out new things. If you love the Sci-Fi setting please thank Stefan the next time you see him. This Gamma Expansion Set would have never happen with most other companies, but Stefan felt strongly that the product really needed some cool accessories. Sometimes Stefan does stuff that does not make a lot of short-term business sense, but in the long-term I think everything he does endears his collectors with gratitude and their deep respect. I know he has mine.
Amen brother... He's got mine as well...*Woot*...

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Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
"Captain's on the Bridge!"
"As you were. Status report, Mister S***k."

And that pretty much says it all. Any closer and P*******t would be breathing down Stefan's neck.
Excellent job!
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#30103
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Absolutely!

I get the impression that for the Beta set, Stefan was a little conflicted about how to proceed -- it was a bit of a mishmash of a set, with building elements, passages, accessories. It maybe tried to please everyone at once, and didn't have quite the "wow" factor that Alpha had, and that the debut sets had.

But after years of being pestered, he knocked it out of the park for Gamma. Now that I have a little more energy, I can say a bit more about them...

The "cryo-tubes" or whatever they are, I really love them. The use of white is a great break from the dominant silver of the setting, and they have impressive heft. I love the design. Now I REALLY want to grab a spare SF set and paint it white, I think they'd go beautifully in a smooth, white, Bespin-esque setting. I also think that, of all the elements in the set, these would work best in large numbers -- i.e. they produce the best excuse to buy three or four more sets. I just love the idea of a room FULL of these things. What would be perfect, and here I'm inspired by Grendel's SF line, would be a version of these smashed up and scorched and leaking....

The regular chairs I really like -- enough of a connection to the "real world" to be familiar if you have a contemporary spy-type game going, missile control HQ type chairs, but also funky enough to work on a starship or extraterrestrial base. After I have a long string of consoles set up, placing the chairs really completes the look.

And those consoles - wow. So far I've found at least four or five arrangements that I love: placing the four corner pieces together facing each other to be completely enclosed as a square; facing them out to form a cross, with the thin corner-completers making it a pointed cross; using the corner-completers to make a kind of long, zig-zag of consoles in a long undulating line; placing the corner consoles in two U-shaped banks to make a kind of M-shape, with the corner completers making the middle a sharp point, and then using the square bits on the end to widen the shape with the straight consoles. It all looks SO FREAKING AWESOME. There's somethign about the long, symmetrical bank of consoles that just.... zings.

So far, the only thing I've done with the rounded consoles is to place all four in a circle and make a "tractor beam" kinda rounded console. Placing chairs around that also looks freaking amazing.

I haven't done much with the swivel chair yet, though I do like it. On its own, it doesn't have quite the splash that the other pieces have, but I can see it being really important to a layout, and its design allows it to be pretty flexible about what it actually IS. At first I felt that I wouldn't ever want two, but now I can see how two could be really useful.

The thing that's a shame about the SF line not doing as well, besides the fact the impact that this has on DF's finances, is that this is a line that just BEGS for tons and tons of expansions. There's just so much kewl stuff that could be done for a SF environment, even staying within the confines of the current "look" -- i.e. without doing alien worlds or cyberpunk or any other design for the setting, there's a ton of stuff that could be done just with the general look of these walls and floors.

I don't really have room for EVERYTHING, though, and given how much dungeon, cavern, MBS, and DoE stuff I've got, it's probably good for me that the SF line isn't more popular. Plus, that new huge freaking Falcon isn't exactly... well... yeah. That thing alone takes up about as much room as half of my DF collection.

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#30104
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Thanks. (blushing)

I am actually just sorry it took so long.

Note: We are not sold out yet though...don't you guys want the other half of the pieces I designed?? Spread the word to those as of yet un-commited eh?
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#30105
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
I got mine last night, i got home from our Deadlands game, and there were this two big boxes of DF sitting infront of my door...

I brought them inside and ploped them on the table, and i began opening the boxes, and pulling out, lots and lots of boxes of Gamma... I knew from the boards that the set was "split" but untill i had them in hand i did not really understand how they had been split. In a weird way getting "12" boxes some how made it seem way cooler, and of more "Value"
There is this whole Stack of them now, and honestly with 12 of these things i will likely leave 1-3 boxes of them at home for just around the house set ups if i do more customs or what not it will be nice to have a set of these around for added flavor.

The look of these is great, it looks like a lot of thought went into where they could go, to add flavor and detail to a Sci-Fi set up, with out diminishing play area in set up. Many can go in the "unused space" like against a wall, or in the corner where the full 1inch floor is not aviliable to handle minis with larger bases (ie anything over the size of a brocilli base) but they also work very well free standing in the center of a room.
Many of the consules work well with each other, to allow for varried combinations, and great variety with just a few items.

The Beds seem very functional and well designed, while there is little "flar" to them they work great and look like thye could have a Military aspect, or be in someones future home or cabin. My only complaint (and this could be rectified with perhaps the second set with a new or convesion peice) would be for a way to make them into Bunks, or be bunks. I really like the beds don't get me wrong, would just like a Set of Bunk Beds as well for the more Militray minded people in my Sci-Fu universe, or for the cramped spaces on a starship.

For me the Cryopods are actually, while looking great, the least in universe theme to me. But then i prefer Star Wars, and you never really see those, but then i Do like Dr. Who, and other shows so i am sure they will have a use. They doo look very nice, and from a game perspective provide great cover and detail to a room. Loads of these in rows would make a really intersting room viually, and for a game area.

The Chairs work great as an addation to the consules, and can even hang out by themselves.

the Command Chair is my only really dislike, and it is a minor point of why i don't like it, the peg pretty much makes it so unless you take that off, it won't sit nicely as a seperate item. It has to go with the riser. The Riser by itself can work great as varried levels, or (and almost gave away an idea i had for the contest...) in er other uses, that the inclusion of the peg for the chair makes kind of the riser have more general purposes and the chair a little less straight out of the box. It would look great as Palpay's throne, but i am not sure i always want it on the riser, i suppose with 12 of these i can sacrifice one to get it flat.

The Railings are also very nice, and to me one of the only real nods to Trek, i don't do a lot of trek so they are a bit less of a wow factor, but even for me as a SW fan i look at them, and had a few ideas on how to use them not as intended... :) But heck it might be enough to grab some of those Victory Force, or other (i think Mega has a few) Trek inspired minis just so i have some Trekers to go with them.

Any word on how many are left, cause 6 may just not be enough...?
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#30106
Bowtie-less Cavern Set and SF Gamma.... 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Hey Ghenghis Ska,

Long time no talk to. It's me, your #1 KOTOR fan from 2005, LOL. Did you ever complete Part 2 of your KOTOR guide? Is there a link? Did you work on WoTC's new KOTOR RPG book?

I just repainted a ton of SW Minis in slate grey uniforms to form an elite security service (Sith, corporate, whatever). Those ugly Bespin Cloud Car Pilots were begging for a repaint.

Back on topic, thanks for the review of the new Gamma set. Although my SW campaign fizzled out in 2005, I still have my DF sets and and have kept up collecting SW Minis. This new Gamma release looks cool, but so expensive for no new floor or wall pieces, just furniture/consoles, etc., no matter how beautiful-looking. I have a bunch of Grendel Resins that are similar (and very nice) but I hate painting scenery, LOL. The great thing about DF is they're ready to play right out of the box. Although I, too, am not a huge fan of the grey/metallic color scheme of the sci-fi sets. Makes everything look old and clunky. I would much rather have them look more Star Wars-y, in Bespin white or Death Star black and grey. Maybe I'll repaint my sets and pick up the newer Sci-Fi sets if I can get another KOTOR game going...
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