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#8889
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
As always, Stefan wants this set to really rock. So, he is making up a bunch of river-type pieces for this set. Sure, we MIGHT be able to figure out an all-clear resin piece, but it is not that simple for Stefan.

He wants to make a REALLY COOL Lakes set some day (god...I hope soon!) and you can bet that he will make that super cool. You guys have no idea how much thought he puts into these sets. I recently spent an hour on the phone with him -- trying to figure out what objects to put into the water resin. He actually wanted me to send him photos of what blind cave-fish look like.

I hope we come out with the Cavernous LAKE set sometime next year, but who knows. I guess all I can ask is that you guys keep supporting us, and he will get to it eventually.

BTW, there are going to be some little "extras" with the Cavernous River Set that we have decided not to tell you about. You will find out when you open your set. I think all the hardcore fans will get a little chuckle about what those pesky lizardmen have been up to in their caverns.
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#8890
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Aw, man. Are we going to have to have our player characters dodging Lizard Man droppings?!? ha ha... <just kidding>

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#8891
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:shock: .......... Exhales.........
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#8892
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Admin,

Thanks for all of the Recent Updates! And I Eagerly Look Forward to Seeing the River Set, and Am Hopefull now about the Lake set being a Future Contender...

In a Sence I Suppose I am Glad that the Rivers and Lake Sets will be Unigue to eachother as this will allow for far more Diversity within Each Set...

As to the Lizard Man Suprises...<Shudder>...
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#8893
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I definitely look forward to getting at least one river set, maybe two. And I'll keep my fingers crossed hoping Dwarven Forge does a lake set too, as I'd gladly get one or two of those as well.
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#8894
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Jeff:

Keep after Stefan to make sure the prototypes are right; :P
Keep after manufacturing to make sure they treat the prototypes nicely so they don't get damaged, and that they HURRY UP WITH THIS STUFF!
:P
Tell Stefan that based on the pic in the cave, he got a very nice lady. :D Congratulations and many Happy Anniversaries to them. Of course, now that Stefan has something better to do with his time than D&D, we may see a slowdown in production! :P :P But probably an INCREASE in Quality Control (if that's possible, given DF's reputation!). :)

Everyone keep up the good work, and what's the status on the container full of our DoE??

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#8895
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
The pics look terrific. My wife and I had fun on the big island of Hawaii, going through the lava tubes in Kilohea. It gave me some ideas for gaming (of course).

I'm looking forward to the Cavernous Rivers sets. They'll join my collection of other Master Maze stuff. Thank god we're getting a house soon, so I'll actually have room for it all.

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#8896
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Hey Guys!

I think I've figured out how to do a cavernous lake :)

1.Take a standard cavern floor tile, and form a layer of Klean Klay or similar stuff @1/8-14" thick. Make the top of the clay as smooth as you want the lake to be.
2.Then use Legos, or whatever, to build a wall around it, tall enough to hold silicone rubber for a mold.
3.Pour your silicone and let it cure fully.
4.Pull the tile, clean the clay off THOROUGHLY.
5.Make another mold box, fill it with silicone, and set the 4x4 floor tile to ONE-HALF the thickness of the tile. Let it cure fully.
6.Mix the clear resin, and add just enough colorant to tint it. Pour the resin in the mold just to 1/2 the thickness of the floor tile. Let it cure completely.
7.Mix the solid resin, fill the floor mold, let it cure.
8.De-mold the tile, paint it for the lake bottom, let it dry.
9.De-mold the water, and using CA, glue it to the lake bottom.

TA-DAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :D :D

Keep in mind, this is to be done ONLY if Jeff & the gang say "NO LAKES!!" Otherwise, let THEM do it; they're problably a lot better at it than we are. (If they aren't, why are we buying THEIR products instead of making our own?)(But they ARE!) 8)

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#8897
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
jkratzer--you might want to consider using RTV rubber instead of silicone. I've found that it holds up better when it comes to removing the mold from the cast pieces. I had less tearage with RTV than with silicone.

Silicone is great for high temperature cures but has a tendency to tear easier. You can also (if I remember correctly) attempt to "vulcanize" your silicone mold to harden the rubber a bit but I can't remember the directions or requirements for that.

There's a whole forum on this with a ton of helpful information at: theminiaturespage.com/boards/topics.mv?id=32
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#8898
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Dante-

You're right; I DID mean RTV instead of silicone. :D
I started with the stuff from Micro-Mark, but now I buy from Smooth-On; lower cost, and same or better quality. Same for the resins. 8)

See ya!

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#8899
Cavernous River Set Photos! 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Smooth-On, eh? I'll have to check that out. I started out using latex rubber from Castin' Craft but that stuff tore so easily that I started searching out better stuff right away. I then started using some stuff I found at a local hobby store--can't recall the name 'cause it's been a year since I've worked with it. RTV rubber based and it was great.

Castin' Craft also makes a clear, polyester resin that is just nasty. Stinky, stinky stuff! I found a supplier of clear resin that's based out of Chicago. They have a hard cure clear resin and the "rubberized" clear resin I mentioned previously. Both have a really low "stink" factor considering the type of chemical we're talking about.
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