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#31868
SECOND Realm of the Ancients Set Pics 5 Years, 9 Months ago  
Please sell the stairs separately!!! Please please please please please!!!!!!!!

(And maybe in traditional Fantasy colours too). Pretty please!
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#31869
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Stefan,

At the risk of sounding ungratful with the stairs any chance if it is not to late to add the corner pieces in reverse? From wide to small to do a grand staircase down around a corner instead of up around a corner? I am thinking of multiple steps and this could be a great way to do a step down arena. Just a thought. That could, as jkatzer points out bring this to a whole new level a Quintuple You Rock the Free World! Never before seen. What do you say Hmmm....

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#31870
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Beautiful!!!!

WOW - what a Christmas present! Thanks to Stefan & Jeff for their continued expansion of the most excellent DF product to feed our wonderful addiction!!!
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#31871
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Jackattack,

Good point on how to use 4 entrances. However, think about this another way. if someone wants to do a large ROTA 1 layout, there aren't any doors in that set. The way to get door is ROTA 2. However, it appears only one door will be in each set, meaning that you'll have to have about one ROTA2 set to each ROTA 1 set to have sufficient doors and diagonal walls to make large layouts.

Ironically, for me, ROTA 2 just reduced the amount of ROTA 1 I will purchase because if I go with 18 sets of ROTA 1 I'd need 18 sets of ROTA 2 with the bulk of the cost tied up in unusable entrances.

Now if there was a ROTA 2.5 available without that entrance but with more doors, rubble and diagonal walls, then I could justify getting into ROTA well beyond a couple of sets.
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#31872
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Let me know if you have any suggestions!

And I hope everyone has a great holiday.

Would it be possible to to include an assortment of different cultural styles?

Examples:

Vine covered Mesoamerican ruins (Aztec, Mayan)
Olmec heads
Sacrificial Altar and pit
Stelae and walls carved with glyph writing
A few walls set with masks made of pieces of jade

Egyptian w/ cartouches and starry tomb ceilings
Sandstone/polished limestone/Obsidian and alabaster/granite statuary
Mudbrick, both, intact and eroded
Nested sarcophagi and canopic jars
Obelisks
hypostyle hall pieces

Greco-Roman Marble
Greek statuary and pillars
Roman/Christian catacombs
Stepped theatre
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#31873
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... and starry tomb ceilings...
Huh?
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#31874
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Suggestions for ROTA III:

Jackal headed fountain and or a pool (similiar to the lava fountain in the Fantasy floor set).

Chasm floor piece (like the one is the Fantasy floor set).

Ancient throne and Dias

6" walls

6" ARCHWAY!!!!
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#31875
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Aracon: I do understand the logistical problems, but I'm more of a "just the rooms we're using right now" kind of guy, not a large layout person, so the problem is not as serious for me. Without individually packaged pieces, or perhaps a trading post for DF enthusiasts to swap pieces, I don't see a solution.

seraphic: Welcome to the boards. Great ideas, but most of those suggestions represent new product lines. Given enough time, I think DF will probably address most of them, but RotA is a limited edition of three sets (one in pre-order status, one in partial preview, and one still in design stages) and the style/theme seems to be pretty well decided. The "Search" feature (third in the blue bar up top) will allow you to browse anything that has been discussed previously concerning those cultural styles -- I encourage you to revive any old threads you find, or to start new threads regarding potential new product lines based on real-world or fantastic cultures.

But ceilings of any kind are unlikely -- they get in the way. ;)
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#31876
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Like all these pieces a very usable set. Really like theidea of stand alone rubble piles and the
multipiece stairs.

For the last set i would like to suggest a 6x4 floor piece with an Impluvium (a water basin) in it.
Would really rock.
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#31877
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Very nice! Extremely cool stuff here, very much what I was hoping to see. A few comments.....

about ROTA2:

I kinda agree about the entrance -- very cool, but would be more appropriate as a pre-order offer than a piece included with every set. Some of us DO buy multiples, and those will pile up. Plus, it does seem like it drives the cost of the set up. I'd rather either pay less, or get more pieces I can use a lot, than have to pay each time for a piece that becomes rapidly less useful. Which is not to say anything bad about the entrance itself -- it's freakin' amazing! But it's a shame I'll only have one really cool painted intersection piece, and yet I'll have three of the entrance piece. You know?

The stairs are fantastic -- I love the stairs in general, and making them this elaborate is great. I've wanted a "grand staircase" for years, and this fits the bill. Plus, it looks like it would work in other settings, too -- can't wait to test that theory!

The rubble piles look great, as do the double doors. The large floor is great, but I can see I'll have my work cut out for me if I want to get a spare set to paint up to match the original deco. Any tips or samples to show us, guys-from-DF?


about ROTA3:

Well, it's a shame to hear only three sets are planned. PLEASE consider doing more, guys! The regular dungeon stuff has a ton, and I see ROTA as having just as much potential. Traps, Wicked Additions, stuff like the Fantasy Floor set.... there's so much! I can see fountains, murals, arches... there's so much that could be done. Free-standing columns! There's so much!

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#31878
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L,

I think anyone purchasing more than 3 sets of ROTA 1 will come to the same conclusion about ROTA 2 and that entrance and the need for more diagonal walls, doors and possbily rubble piles than entrances...

My Hope is that DF can put together a ROTA 2.5 with more diagonal walls and doors in place of the entrance...... Either that or I'll just buy a small number of sets because of the cost to get enough of the accessories in ROTA 2 with much of it tied up in extra entrances (that are awesome but not needed in mass numbers)

Actually, I'd prefer an Entrance set.... move that entrance piece to a set of entrances for each of the sets (cave, dungeon, cavern river, etc)
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#31879
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I think there are pillars in RotA 2 (hidden behind the stairs in the images).

A couple-few traps might be possible in the third set, but I don't see RotA as a trap-rich environment. Of course, that may be my "RotA is the antithesis of DoE" bias talking -- I assume that the ancients were too nice for traps, or that their traps are much more magical than mechanical. (I am much more interested in Fantasy traps coming back without bowties than in RotA traps.)

I've got mixed feelings about the three-set plan. On the one hand, yes each line has lots of potential. On the other hand, if every set that DF produces is expanded to its full potential, the rate at which new environments are developed will slow from one every couple of years to one every decade or so. And as the number of sets in each line grows, the cargo container will hold fewer and fewer units of each set.

In addition, I really like the variety that comes from different sets having different pieces in the second or third set. Fantasy has spiral stairs and curved passages and (hopefully returning) traps galore; DoE has that big raised platform and fire pots and the long walls with the amazing perspective; MBS has the fireplace and balcony railings and furniture accessories; and RotA has double doors and grand stairs and an exterior entrance/exit.

There are some elements of other environments I would like to see translated to the Fantasy line, but I think some of those might be best handled the way that Fantasy Floors was done -- a small set with a very specific theme, but including pieces for several lines. If, for example, Stefan wanted to do a bunch of fireplaces, he might make one each for RotA and DoE, a variant for MBS, a forge, and a couple for Fantasy, making a six-pack that would sell at a fairly reasonable price and has something for everyone.

I will always consider Fantasy to be the primary line, the one that is (because of its simple and universal design) the most versatile and the one that will see the most use in gameplay. But I love the new environments, and I hope to see lots more over the years. I also hope that when each limited run sells out, DF will safely store the masters and molds and consider bringing it back for another limited run after X years have passed, so that new (or long-time) customers will have a chance to buy it (again).

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Back at RotA3, the quicksand/mosaic-whirlpool mentioned earlier would make a good trap, and could be considered mechanical, magical, or even a symptom of natural decay.

A 2x4 jackal statue (or two) has all kinds of potential as guardians, flank-pieces for an altar or throne, clues as to which way to go (jackals always face out/in, always face danger, etc.).

A 6x6 floor with the sun-face would make a nice centerpiece. If the sun-face was carved onto a removable circular piece, it could be lifted out to reveal the table (or a printed background, like darkness or wailing spirits or lava or sky or stars or just about anything), AND the sun-face could be rotated during play for whatever reason the GM can come up with (giant combination lock, points to something, mechanical/magical calendar or clock, countdown device, activation dial for doomsday sequence, etc.).
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