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#17330
Out of Business? 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
My local game store (Duluth MN) was set to the task of fetching me some Dwarvenforge, and he called me back saying that Dwarven Forge was out of business and has been for some time. Where would he get this idea?
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#17331
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Well, DF is right now more into bussiness than ever!!!

Perhaps he refers to the fact that they no longer sell stuff to distributors, but only through this website.

Hope it helps! :-)
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#17332
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Sounds like he's probably thinking of another company. I thought that DF was no longer allowing retailers to sell their stuff? Thought you could only get it online now through this site?
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#17333
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I was also told this a few months back by my retailer. He found out that Alliance (hope I got that right) does not like it when companies go direct- thus cutting out the middleman cut. When companies do this Alliance simply tells retailors that that particular company has gone under.

You put 2 and 2 together.
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#17334
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Retailers like to sell what they have in the store. Perhaps he was just hoping you'd buy something he had in stock. Never mind that nothing compares to DF.

But definitely mention to him that rumors of DF's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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#17335
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Man, this stuff aggravates me to no end.

I am not surprised by it, but it still infuriates me.

Either he is outright lying, or he's too stupid to know his own business. Either way, it's annoying.

This hobby is not that large, it shouldn't be asking much to expect people to KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Ugh.

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#17336
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Yes Falshan,

We have gone the direct to customer route. It has been very helpful for us here at Dwarven Forge.
It has enabled us to create more products faster AND to have more control over our own destiny.
If we had continued to sell through distribution we probably wouldn't be around anymore as their orders became smaller and smaller and smaller...thankfully, due to our many loyal direct customers we are now doing much better.

We hope to be around for several more decades!
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#17337
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Yeah I was told the same thing when I asked an older game store, that used to stock DF, if they had an sets left. These guys have been in business forever and it's hard for me to believe they actually thought DF was out of business.

My guess is the distributors/gaming stores are not all too happy about being cut out of the loop.
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#17338
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I can understand that a game store or distributor might not be happy about being cut out of the loop, but being unhappy does not excuse outright lying by telling customers that a company is out of business if they know that is not true. That is just wrong.
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#17339
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Well,
For these stores to think that DF was out of business, they would have to NEVER read a Dungeon or Dragon magazine, which may be possible.... but do you really want a guy who does not even browse the official publication for the largest RPG game to be selling you your stuff?
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I was also told this a few months back by my retailer. He found out that Alliance (hope I got that right) does not like it when companies go direct- thus cutting out the middleman cut. When companies do this Alliance simply tells retailors that that particular company has gone under.

You put 2 and 2 together.

Man, this stuff aggravates me to no end.

I am not surprised by it, but it still infuriates me.

Either he is outright lying, or he's too stupid to know his own business. Either way, it's annoying.

This hobby is not that large, it shouldn't be asking much to expect people to KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.

Ugh.

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Yeah I was told the same thing when I asked an older game store, that used to stock DF, if they had an sets left. These guys have been in business forever and it's hard for me to believe they actually thought DF was out of business.

My guess is the distributors/gaming stores are not all too happy about being cut out of the loop.

I can understand that a game store or distributor might not be happy about being cut out of the loop, but being unhappy does not excuse outright lying by telling customers that a company is out of business if they know that is not true. That is just wrong.
The retailer, guys, is not stupid; he is just honestly forwarding information he has received on to the customer from the store's distributor whom the store must trust in order to operate.
All of the gaming distributors, from what I have heard and been told, report Dwarven Forge is out of business.
The simplest way to understand what they say is that from their view, Dwarven Forge is.
Plus, I am sure there is a bit of cattiness involved, but they can say honestly this because none of them do business with Dwarven Forge.

Well,
For these stores to think that DF was out of business, they would have to NEVER read a Dungeon or Dragon magazine, which may be possible.... but do you really want a guy who does not even browse the official publication for the largest RPG game to be selling you your stuff?

THAT view is a just bit narrow-minded Celtchief.
I have patronized many good game shoppes over the years Celtchief that never read or even sold either Dungeon or Dragon.
They were stores that specialized in just about any type of gaming, but especially Sci-fi, other than Fantasy.
They saw no need to "waste" their money on "fantasy scandal sheets" as I once was told.
A shoppe does not need to patronize D&D to be quality Celtchief.
There is much more to do in gaming than just fantasy gaming.
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#17341
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THAT view is a just bit narrow-minded Celtchief.
I have patronized many good game shoppes over the years Celtchief that never read or even sold either Dungeon or Dragon.
They were stores that specialized in just about any type of gaming, but especially Sci-fi, other than Fantasy.

I gotta side with Celtchief here, RF. This is not something I had remembered at the time of my post, but it fits under the category of "know the hobby."

They don't have to stock it. They don't even have to READ it. This is a big color ad in the back of the magazine, there has been one almost every month this year. You just have to skim it.

If we were talking about knowing the minutia of a 3.5 edition prestige class, or even the release date of a book -- fine, I'd agree with you. Not everyone needs to know that.

But we're talking about a passing familiarity with the biggest periodical in the industry. That's pretty basic stuff. This is like being an expert in film and running a video store and not knowing Tom Cruise just because you happen to specialize in foreign movies.

Maybe I'm just sensitive to this because I'm an academic -- I can't stand the "head in the sand" qualities of people whose expertise in a narrow area causes them to be ignorant of something basic and immensely popular close to their field. Film experts should be familiar with the name "Tom Cruise," even if they don't know anything about his recent exploits or the BO of his movies. Your expertise in something esoteric should't give you a license to be ignorant about something so basic.

Similarly, if you run a game shop -- not just frequent one or like them a lot but actually make it your business to run one -- then, yes, I don't think it is asking much that you should have skimmed through a Dragon in the past six months.

I mean, there is a small chance you will get a customer curious about this, after all. It's just good business sense. (Not in this case, of course, but that doesn't mean that skimming through Dragon magazine every few months to remain aware of some basic points wouldn't be a good idea)

I doubt you're going to agree with me, RF, so we'll have to respect each other's different perspectives here. I certainly don't think either one of us could offer proof about what store managers should or should not know.

I'm pretty intolerant of ignorance, esp. concerning things so basic, information so easy to come by, and so popular. If you can't be bothered to stay abreast of such basic information, I lose respect for you, no matter how long you can lecture on the more fascinatingly obscure esoterica of the field.

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