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#11204
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
I know it's been moaned about before here but-
It's really too bad that supply seems to be so low on DF stuff while demand is so high. While I count myself as one in the 30+ age bracket with LOTS of extra money to spend on things that help to pass my time, I can never seem to pick this stuff up while it's in such 'limited supply'. I've managed to scoop up two DOE sets and may grab another one or two just so I have a serious amount of product that at least goes together with itself well.
I hear the reasons for only having so much come in at once, must pay for the next container etc...All things I know well in manufacturing a product (overseas nonetheless) but perhaps a call for an investor or two (or three or four....) to expedite getting these containers produced and on the water faster with stuff that folks really want to buy???
Akin to the now aging boomers, some of us fair geeks are coming in to fortunes of our own and would love to plunk down hard earned money on a beautiful, quality product that will surely last us years to come. I know that everyone I've shown my pretty new toys to has been found to say "Where the f--- can I get that?" and "100 bucks a set doesn't sound too bad!"
Please know that I've not come here to talk smack to the powers that be about what a terrible job they do at keeping product in stock. More to the point, I see folks post here all the time about how little there is available and how long they must wait for more. I just saw a post to another on-line retailer undercutting DF prices, not much available but still....not to mention other products and services out there that run a close second to DF. Then there's always WotCbro to keep and eye on....
I fear some of these issues may make the market you've cornered quite ripe for the plucking by 'the competition'...

-W-
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#11205
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Will -
While many of us here bemoan the short supply of DF, we also recognize the cusp Jeff and Stefan, et al, are on right now. IF they can just get past the bell curve to start making significant revenue, they can start ordering from China in bulk, and maintain a stock supply of sets and indie pieces. IF they can generate new customers, they can start making significant revenue to start ordering from China in bulk. IF they can spread the word far enough, fast enough, they can generate new customers and start making significant revenue to start ordering in bulk from China. IF they can maintain a stock supply of sets and indie pieces, they can spread the word far enough, fast enough.

Do you see a circle forming here? Because I sure do, and while I've had a VERY small amount of small business experience, and I DID get a 3.84 GPA in Accounting 101, I DO see the problem DF is facing.

I've ALSO seen what the competition is doing, and as long as Mystic Blocks doesn't go hog-wild, and Bruce Hirst keeps selling molds instead of quality finished pieces, then I'm not particularly concerned about the competion NOW. However, if WizBro decides to throw a couple hundred million dollars at the idea, DF could be in trouble - IF WizBro can find and KEEP a sculptor as talented as Stefan and his staff (however large that may be). I'm not sure WB can DO that, however, because if they could, they would have done so with their D&D, SW, and now A&A lines, and there would be higher quality in those molds. And WizKids, with their Mage Knight dungeons, aren't even in the game. They do very nice clicky-base toys, but their MechWarrior minis are junk, as far as I'M concerned (even though I at one time had over a short brigade of BattleTech mechs!), and while I have a considerable amount of Mage Knight Castle pieces, that's because DF doesn't DO fortress walls, etc!

I AM worried about the continued business health of DF, because I love their products. Unfortunately, the guys at KPMG keep refusing to draw my numbers for the Mega Millions each Tuesday and Friday, or else DF wouldn't have any funding problems!

Perhaps, if Jeff (as business President) and Stefan (as CEO) can find a way to 'go public' without surrendering creative, business, and quality control, this might the time to urge them to do so. A healthy infusion of cash flow is, I think, the only roadblock to their having a dynamic and high-performance company/corporation that can live up to the products they sell.

BUT if they have to surrender ANY of those qualities, then let's just leave them small until they CAN retain those controls.

See ya!

Jim
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#11206
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
We hear you, and we are doing our best to get DF turned around as fast as good discretion allows. You have no idea how close DF was to the Boneyard a few years ago, so please be patient with us as we try to get things turned around. We REALLY appreciate all the pre-orders that we receive as that "jump-starts" the healing process, and we hope that pre-orders for the Cavernous River and Walls Set will catapult us into a situation where we can keep most major sets in stock -- AND develop 3-4 new sets a year.

Finally, Dwarven Forge is the dream of one man -- Stefan Pokorny. He is a fine art oil painter who really kind of fell into this whole business. It was never his intention to make a pile of money. He just wanted to make something very cool to share with fellow gamers. We are all lucky that his artist's passion has seen the product come to fruition, and that it continues to be provided with little monetary reward for Stefan. So please be patient with DF's little quirks and outages, and keep in mind that we are doing our best while maintaining Stefan's original vision. That being said, it is also incumbent upon DF to keep in mind that we have the best customers in world, but they won't be willing to wait forever.

I feel Stefan to be a kindred spirit as I, too, am passionate about a gaming thing (True Dungeon) that is more about providing something cool for fellow gamers than anything else. As the years go forward for me and TD, I can only hope that I can maintain the commitment to quality and the resistance to the "quick-buck" that Stefan has managed to keep alive. He is a great example for anyone with a passion for doing something special for other people.

This is DF's 10th anniversary, and we hope 2006 will be a turnaround year for us. We appreciate your support, and perhaps at Christmas 2006 we can look back at a grand year.
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#11207
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Fight the good fight!!
(Keep on rocking in the free world!)
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#11208
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Hey Jeff!

WHAT's True Dungeon?
Are you hiding something COOL from me again?
Am I going to have to tell Lori you've been acting up? Remember what she told you the last time you got busted for hiding goodies!
Okay, so I'm joking about all of that third paragraph. You knew that; I just like to keep things on a 'fun' basis.
But seriously now, what IS True Dungeon? I think(?) I've read you mentioning it before here on the fora, but I can't remember where, and digging out the post (if it really WAS there!) would take a LOT longer than just asking you again.
It sounds like something we'd ALL like to know about.
So, c'mon, let us all in on the secret - unless it really IS secret, in which case, tell me to just shut UP and go AWAY!

See ya!

Jim
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#11209
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True Dungeon? What? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Sounds like an adult site...
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#11210
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
LOL,,,Cum to the True Dungeon...! Ok ok,,,Sorry. Great new site. Even if it is not new I just got another look at the store front....
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#11211
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Je-eff!

C'mon, stop that. You're teasing me again!
Yeah, I know, I sound about ten years old.
I KNOW it's not an adult site! Well, I HOPE it isn't one, anyway.
So what IS it?

See ya!

Jim
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#11212
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
"True Dungeon" is just that--a life-sized walk through dungeon complete with scenery, riddles, puzzles, and "creatures" that you battle. They had it setup at GenCon this past August--it was the first time I had heard of it or seen it. $20 per ticket to go through. It was a blast. www.truedungeon.com/true/dungeon.html

I went through on a Friday afternoon with a group of folks from Seattle whom I had never met. They totally "clicked" and left me high and dry like a bastard step-child. That is... until the realized that my character, the rogue, was direly needed to disarm the boatload of traps inside of the place. They were acting like such dicks to me the person--not the character that I basically blew them off once we were inside of the place.

The next night however, I was signed up for the midnight crawl and the group I went in with (all total strangers again) were an absolute blast. We wound up getting a bit inebriated in the "True Tavern" (or whatever it was called) just before we went in for our "adventure". We wound up totally kicking butt and came out of the toughest scenario alive. We all got these little "I survived the battle" type pins. It was really well worth the $20 for me after that.
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#11213
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
We hear you, and we are doing our best to get DF turned around as fast as good discretion allows. You have no idea how close DF was to the Boneyard a few years ago, so please be patient with us as we try to get things turned around. We REALLY appreciate all the pre-orders that we receive as that "jump-starts" the healing process, and we hope that pre-orders for the Cavernous River and Walls Set will catapult us into a situation where we can keep most major sets in stock -- AND develop 3-4 new sets a year.

Finally, Dwarven Forge is the dream of one man -- Stefan Pokorny. He is a fine art oil painter who really kind of fell into this whole business. It was never his intention to make a pile of money. He just wanted to make something very cool to share with fellow gamers. We are all lucky that his artist's passion has seen the product come to fruition, and that it continues to be provided with little monetary reward for Stefan. So please be patient with DF's little quirks and outages, and keep in mind that we are doing our best while maintaining Stefan's original vision. That being said, it is also incumbent upon DF to keep in mind that we have the best customers in world, but they won't be willing to wait forever.

I feel Stefan to be a kindred spirit as I, too, am passionate about a gaming thing (True Dungeon) that is more about providing something cool for fellow gamers than anything else. As the years go forward for me and TD, I can only hope that I can maintain the commitment to quality and the resistance to the "quick-buck" that Stefan has managed to keep alive. He is a great example for anyone with a passion for doing something special for other people.

This is DF's 10th anniversary, and we hope 2006 will be a turnaround year for us. We appreciate your support, and perhaps at Christmas 2006 we can look back at a grand year.

Thank you so much Jeff for the kind words. You are right that we are kindred spirits...geeky to the last!
True Dungeon is such an incredible event that makes so many people happy...but what most people don't know is that even before it was held at Gen Con, Jeff was creating and running it for only a couple dozen friends in his home town of Carbondale...I'm gonna guess that like me, he didn't dream that it would one day be THE MAIN EVENT at Gen Con (then again Jeff, maybe you did dream...)
Here's to all the dreams and the dreamers...
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#11214
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
"True Dungeon" is just that--a life-sized walk through dungeon complete with scenery, riddles, puzzles, and "creatures" that you battle. They had it setup at GenCon this past August--it was the first time I had heard of it or seen it. $20 per ticket to go through. It was a blast. www.truedungeon.com/true/dungeon.html

I went through on a Friday afternoon with a group of folks from Seattle whom I had never met. They totally "clicked" and left me high and dry like a bastard step-child. That is... until the realized that my character, the rogue, was direly needed to disarm the boatload of traps inside of the place. They were acting like such dicks to me the person--not the character that I basically blew them off once we were inside of the place.

The next night however, I was signed up for the midnight crawl and the group I went in with (all total strangers again) were an absolute blast. We wound up getting a bit inebriated in the "True Tavern" (or whatever it was called) just before we went in for our "adventure". We wound up totally kicking butt and came out of the toughest scenario alive. We all got these little "I survived the battle" type pins. It was really well worth the $20 for me after that.

Yup yup! TD looks incredible! The only thing is - I missed the boat at Gen Con SoCal this year... tickets were sold out by the time my group got there 8-(... ah well, at least I got to enjoy the games in the True Tavern with the barfight and all!

This time though, gonna make sure we get them tickets early!
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#11215
It's really too bad... 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
The next night however, I was signed up for the midnight crawl and the group I went in with (all total strangers again) were an absolute blast. We wound up getting a bit inebriated in the "True Tavern" (or whatever it was called) just before we went in for our "adventure".
Yes, True Tavern is correct.
In the spiel you were welcomed to the Teasing Dryad Tavern at Indy, and at SoCal is was the Green Griffon Inn.

04' was the Welcoming Wench Inn.

Hey Jeff aren't you impressed, I sorta posted on topic! :p
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