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#6930
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 4 Months ago  
Hey...I'm a gamer...and I have strong opinions too. But please...let's try to turn the other cheek. We all are interested in DF stuff so please keep it to just the product and not the forum users.

If any of you wish to write me about what is going on here...just send an email to me (Jeff) at (name)@dwarvenforge.com. Thanks.
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#6931
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 4 Months ago  
Here! Here! Let's get back to just talking about Dwarven Forge.
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#6932
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 4 Months ago  
Darn Skippy! (But You are Preaching to the Choir on this One)...<Grin>...
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#6933
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 4 Months ago  
Getting along is pretty easy until some folks feel they can criticise any and all things you say.
I say that everyone will get along as this does not happen.
Let's have fun!
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#6934
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I agree, but part of the problem is that there are some that are convinced that you are only but the alter ego of RF. I think that is something you need to straighten out. (I am not one of them BTW, but I have read comments to that affect.)
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#6935
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Out of curiosity brvheart, how could she do that?
And, if she did, would the "bullies" really believe her anyway?
My vote is of course, "No they would not!"
They would be proven wrong if they did admit to the proof.
I do not think they would even believe Jeff if he had proof that I am not her, which I believe he does.
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#6936
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Dunno if she could, but at least in the other forum she has posted a denial. Should be at least a start. It is for this reason and others I have decided that it is a good time to start talking about a CoC again.
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#6937
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Dunno if she could, but at least in the other forum she has posted a denial. Should be at least a start. It is for this reason and others I have decided that it is a good time to start talking about a CoC again.

As long as this CoC of L's allows you to defend yourself.
I do not feel like being someone's scapegoat again.
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#6938
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I would encourage you to put in your 2 cents worth. I think as many people's input as possible will make it more effective. But I think the idea is NOT to respond in kind, but for the members of the board to state that WE don't tolerate the behavior that would necessitate defending against. No, neither you nor anyone else be a scapegoat.
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#6939
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Here's what I would suggest (and, I can't stress this enough, this is a SUGGESTION for the CoC -- everyone is welcome to suggest changes)

You can defend yourself in one post, politely. No character attacks, no insults, no belittling. Just defend yourself against the words and leave the ad hominem attacks out of things. If someone calls you a cannibal, it doesn't matter how horrible they are - you say you aren't a cannibal, and that is enough.

Beyond that, if they keep attacking, you can either PM them and take it up off-board or you can contact Jeff. Let him know someone is attacking you and you haven't done anything wrong.

Here's my reasoning, so you can see why this approach makes the most sense to me:

1. If one post isn't enough to convince someone, 1000 won't be enough either. If they aren't agreeing with you, or seeing reason, you have to accept that you are arguing with a wall. Let it go. Remember, this is the internet. Your opponent may be messing with you for larfs. They could be a ten year-old kid. They could be anyone. Why assume they even DESERVE your carefully considered replies?

2. If you really like the debate, why assume the rest of us do? Take it off-board and debate till your heart's content. The forums allow for a lot of OT discussion, but they ARE mainly for DF discussion. Tons of posts that are OT are just bad form, and not why Jeff et al put so much effort into creating the forums.

3. Even if #1 and #2 don't convince you, see what happens after you've defended yourself a few times. If the other person doesn't relent and say "You must be right! I sincerely apologize," then you have to ask yourself what you are accomplishing.

Sometimes even being right isn't enough. You just have to give in to practical considerations -- the fight is going to go on forever, nothing is being accomplished, and you have to let it go.

One more way to think about it: If most people agree with you, then you look like the bigger, more responsible person for simply walking away from a fight. If most people disagree with you, then you aren't going to win anyway, and you've found a board full of people that don't get along with you, and hence probably isn't worth your time. In either case, defending yourself ad nauseum isn't necessary or helpful.

I hope that makes sense.

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#6940
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I think it is going to take a little more than that. Just saying don't respond in kind and take it off list isn't enough. There must be back up from the rest of us for the person that is willing to NOT respond in kind. Otherwise they will feel that they are just being attacked without any recompense. It shouldn't have to have each individual going to Jeff. If we want to make this work WE must show that we don't tolerate the behavoir when someone won't stop.
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#6941
Can't We All Just Get Along? 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I think it is going to take a little more than that. Just saying don't respond in kind and take it off list isn't enough. There must be back up from the rest of us for the person that is willing to NOT respond in kind. Otherwise they will feel that they are just being attacked without any recompense. It shouldn't have to have each individual going to Jeff. If we want to make this work WE must show that we don't tolerate the behavoir when someone won't stop.

That can still end up in a two-to-three camp flame war.
With some of the particular egos here, who just cannot see that they are the attackers, I can really see that happening.
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