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#44302
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Well for terrain accessories I will use the cheap craft store paints for the base colors of Hirst Arts builds. No need to waste GW or Reaper expensive paint on that. I then use the good stuff for my highlights, metal bits, etc.
But the above advice is still good. Get good brushes, care for them, master the basic techniques, etc. Dry brushing is used a lot if you are just doing walls and floors.
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#44303
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I plan to paint both minis and accesories but mostly minis to start -- I should have mentioned that in my OP. I've seen so many [items] for sale, so many good to great items, but they have all come UNPAINTED. Sometimes I see them listed as painted but the price gets so high during bidding it's not within my budget.

I will start as recommended by buying and painting skeletons for the minis and practicing with them until I get proficient or kill myself from the lack of patience! :)

Any good Skeleton minis to recommend? I would prefer highly detailed ones and those in a set would be preferrable to loose ones to maximize learning and painting times. Should I go with Metal, Plastic, or Tin?

I recently saw a listings for Tin figures made by Mega Miniatures and for the $29.99 USD price, you get 25 Villagers. Is painting Tin minis much more different than painting metal or plastic?
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#44304
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Tin minis are today's lead minis. No one makes lead minis anymore due to child safety laws etc, hence the tin. I have painted mega minis, no problems. They are cool, kind of old school. I think some are actual reproduction moulds from old ral partha or grenadier.
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Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Dndgamer,
if I were you, I'd stick to plastic minis for starters for several reasons. They are cheaper, easier to assemble and you don't need to give them a gloss finish since with plastics the paint will not go off as easy as with metal minis.


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#44321
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
My recommendation for high quality skeletons are those from the Games Workshop (Dwarf will like that...) Warhammer Vampire count line:



They come at $2.50 each at list price. They sometimes show up unpainted on ebay for cheaper. Also, there are a lot of retailers that distribute GW products cheaper, look around!

For this project, you absolutely need "plastic glue" and I would also recommend a nice plastic clipper for cutting the plastic pieces from the casting mould. The downside is you have to assemble the pieces. The good side is that you can choose which weapons you want your skeletons to hold (there is a very wide choice of weapons in the kit and it provides casts for loose weapons extra) and in which position. For RPG purposes, you can choose as I did that no one holds the stupid banner/trumpet, unless of course you want it...

These skeletons might be a little more complex to paint as I guess those Crioux & Dwarf had in mind when they recommended painting that.
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#44322
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Also, most accessories are bigger and have less details. In my mind, you could start with those before going into minis.

p.s. Don't buy a magnifying glass. I bought one when I started and I never used it... it's a scam in my opinion. How could you hold a mini, a brush and a magnifying glass at once? I know there are those fancy glasses that stay in position but I don't think you're yet at that painting skill that requires such minute precision.
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#44323
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Biowizard,
I've seen the GW skeletons but did not know they're plastic minis. Don't ask me why but I thought they were metal since they had so much detail and the paint jobs were great! I gotta get me some to practice with. Oh, and I like the fact of customizing them with certain weapons. Thanks for the pic.

Dwarf, can you recommend GW paints and washes which can be bought in a set that'll be good for painting those skeletons?
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#44324
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
In my opinion, here's the very basic you would need:

1) Skull white (GW's funky name for white) for the bones.
2) Chaos black (GW's funky name for black) for the undercoat of everything that is metallic and the black washes (dilute with lots of water, perhaps 1 in 10?) over the bones already painted white, especially the ribs, teeth, fingers and spine.
3) Boltgun metal (GW's funky name for dark metallic) for you to experience the dry brushing technique over the metallic parts of the minis that had already been undercoated with black.
4) Scorched brown (GW's funky name for dark brown) for the rags and wooden parts of shield. You can tone it lighter or darker by pre-mixing with black or white.
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#44325
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
OK, so far this is what I've done:

  1. 1. I've found several reasonable listings for the GW Skeletons pack. Total, including shipping is ~$24.00USD.


  2. 2. I've ordered the paintbrushes recommended earlier in the post.


  3. 3. Searched for the GW paints needed but not yet found.


Can anyone post a link of the other items I'm gonna need like to prepare the minis, remove extra plastic or metal and other useful items.

Thanks.
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#44326
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Any feedback on Fenryll Miniatures: Skeletons Army Box Set (20) ~$25.73+Shipping?
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#44328
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Dndgamer,
congratulations on choosing GW skeletons. In fact, I just bought one box myself last saturday since this saturday, a lot of new stuff for the vampire counts army will be released.
I will explain, how I am going to paint them when I find the time.
First I take my plastic clipper just as Biowizard said and take the miniatures out of the mould. Simply all pieces so that I can individualize them. For Warhammer all have to be equipped the same, but you can choose each one individually. However you choose to equip them, you will have a lot of pieces left over, which I recommend putting inside a box, your so-called Bits Box. These bits come in handy, when you individualize other miniatures or as further detail for terrain pieces.
After clipping them off, I will use a sharp knife to remove all the flash from the miniature parts. When that's done it's glueing them together with plastic glue since it melds plastic parts together.
Priming them in White is the next step, just as described in my previous post. If the primer didn't reach all the recesses, then I'll paint them with diluted Skull White.
Then I will use the wash Gryphonne Sepia to do all the bones. I will not water it down, au contraire, I will use it with abandon since the new washes are used that way. Be sure to work with each color on all minis since when you are done with the last, the first one should be dry again.
Next step is painting all metal parts, e.g. weapons and armor in Chaos Black. These will then be drybrushed with Boltgun metal. Be careful as not to brush onto the bony parts.
When that is done those metal parts will get a layer of Badab Black and Devlan Mud. Both are washes and will be used sometimes together, sometimes alone on different metal parts so as to give the impression of different stages of deterioration.
After that it's just a matter of some details, like Mechrite Red for some banners (on the spears), painting the inside of the caved in heads a darker shade, and the wooden parts of the weapons in Calthan Brown (+ Devlan Mud wash).

That's all I come up with at the moment.

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#44330
Re:Need Help! Taking the PLUNGE into Painting! 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I bought these: DHL Classics: Skeletons

They were the 2nd or 3rd miniature figure I painted and they turned out okay. I used the reaper triad:bone shadow, aged bone, polished bone. I primed them white with GW primer and then base coated everything with bone shadow. Then I used aged bone to dry brush. After that I made an ink wash using 2 parts bone shadow, 1 part black, 3 parts matte medium, 3 parts water, 1 part flow improver and liberally put on the ink wash to darken the recessed detail. Once that dried I dry brushed them with polish bone. I then mixed up a glaze of 1 part aged bone, 1 part flow improver, 4 parts water and lightly soften the harsh highlights. Then I did the weapons with GW metalics and I used some random brown for the wood parts.

I would listen to everyone else though. I too am a beginner.
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