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#43170
Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Discussion in another thread got me wondering about paints for miniatures. I painted a few miniatures a long time ago, and I'm thinking of starting up again once I set up a workshop in the basement.

But when I painted, I just used Testors model paints on lead minis.

What are the virtues and drawbacks of various types (or brands) of paint?
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#43172
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
First, make sure you use acrylic paints. The Testors back in the day was an enamel paint. You will not get the look you desire with enamel, plus you need to be able to thin the paint with water as needed. So acrylics are what you use for minis.
As for brand, I use whatever. I have found good results with Reaper, Vallejo, and Citadel (Games Workshop). However, I also use the cheap craft store acrylics too as you can get a huge variety of colors very inexpensively (they sell them in mini pot assortments). I am slowly moving away from those as my "official" brand mini paint selection grows. But starting out it works ok.
Reaper has several prepackaged assortments that come in a nice storage case. I have been considering one of those. The advantage of this approach is that each Paint line will have color groups, usually three shades of the same color, so blending and shading within that color will work nicely. So if you get a starter assortment from Reaper, or whichever company, you should be able to add the other shades around that base collection.
Just my two cents. I look forward to see if Dwarf, Biowizard, Law, Kronos, or Morgar have anything to say on this thread. They know more about this than me.
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#43174
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I use prince august Andrea color and tamia, some citadel (but even if there is good bright color among theim I have fallen out with games, because of the lack of airtightness of the paint pot among the years....I love to finish my container before having to buy another)...
As I do a lot of paintjob, I mix theim with acrylic paint from harware shop but be carefull all the used base are not enough good to....
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#43176
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I use folk arts paints. I don't like gw paints because they dry out way before I can use them. When I get a new bottle I dump a third of it out and top it off with water. I have some that are three years old and still useable. They are about $.89 a bottle at Hobby Lobby.
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#43177
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I use only GW paints. With over 70 different paints, including the in a different thread mentioned foundation paints plus the best washes in existence out there, I have to admit that I don't need anything else.
It's true that GW paints tend to dry out, but only if you leave them lying around for longer periods of time without usage. I like to compare those paints with a car. Though you might use it regularly you also have to take care of it from time to time, too. Just like you have to take your car to regular examinations (checking oil, electronics, lights, etc.), you need to refill the paint pots with a couple of water drops each in order to keep them fluid enough. I do this on a regular basis, about once all 3-4 weeks, thus ensuring they work properly and avoiding accidents :-)

Whatever paints you use, I have to agree on keeping with acrylic paints. You don't want to use enamel paints any longer, that's for sure.

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#43178
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Jackattack, In a few words: Stay away from oil based paints (Testors)! It is so much more easy to paint with acrylic (water compatible) paints.
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#43179
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Dwarf, continuing from the other thread, I believe I foolishly added water directly into my foundation paint pots like with my other normal citadel pots, which made my pigments coagulate. To anyone trying these products, dilute this paint outside the pot!
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#43180
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Most miniature painters started with Citadel/GW paints, as did I. They come in small volumes which is convenient as you do not need much for painting minis. Unfortunately, I tend to stop painting now and then for long period of times and I forget to do the necessary "watering" maintenance Dwarf described. This means all my GW pots are now dried up. They are convenient for beginners in the sense that you can open them up right away and dip your brush right into them. But, to become a good painter, you have to learn about how diluting your paint with different amounts of water to achieve different effects and the citadel pot design is not very friendly for that.

Here is how I paint. I use paint that comes in drop-bottles as Vallejo and Reaper's paint do. I hear Reaper's paint comes already pretty dilute so that you can paint right away with it. The drawback to that is that you might need many coats for good coverage. Vallejo ("Model Color", not the immitation of GW that is the "Game Color" line) on the other hand is very thick and you need to shake those bottles like crazy to have all the pigments in solution before use. You then need to dilute it with water before use. As a molecular biologist, I have unlimited access to a vortex, micro-pipettes, microtubes and distilled water. I pre-diluted the right amount of all my paints (and pre-mixed new colors) in all the little tubes with the white caps on and I just need to vortex them 5 seconds before use. I would say that is a pretty elaborate setup so that 20 years from now, when I'm very old and hopefully still playing RPGs, my paint will still be good! But then, I'm a geek...



p.s. You do not need such an elaborate system to paint good-looking minis!
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#43182
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
I use Vallejo game colour, interspersed with a few Games Workshop metallics and foundation paints.
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#43183
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Awesome post biowizard, I'm taking notes! I painted my first mini when I was 7 or 8 years old, and I've gone through plenty of dried out bottles since then.

Now of days all I've been using is Reaper with a handful of vellejos remaining Vellejos are more complicated as you detailed, no complaints on the reapers.

In terms of miniature painting, I think the biggest issue for me in the past was brush care. Its worth reading up on.
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#43220
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hm.

It looks like I will need to practice my painting skills AND experiment with different paints.

Do you get the same kinds of fumes with acrylics as you get with enamels and thinner? I've got a couple of places I could set up, but limited space in both, and I'm wondering how much ventilation I need. (One location I can probably set up a fan and a vent, one place I can't.)
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#43221
Re:Paint Thread 2 Years, 10 Months ago  
That's the beauty of acrylics! No fumes! The solvent is plain old water (distilled water if you're a freak... ;-) ). My painting setup is directly in my bedroom beside a window so that I have more light! Paint brush cleaning is also done with plain old water. Just do it often to keep bristles free of dried paint, but do it gently so that the end of your brush does not get damaged. I would suggest to people interested in learning how to paint minis to higher standards to go and visit the "Cool Mini or Not" forum: www.coolminiornot.com/forums/. You could also start by reading the basic and advanced painting tutorials found for free at hot-lead.org/. That's how I learned how to paint anyway...
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