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#27475
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Yoooww! The Hobbit will be made in 2010! Now that's what I wanted for Christmas!
Post your thoughts here....Peter Jackson Producing but NOT Directing?? Wait a minute What!
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#27476
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Finally !!! The pettiness (what's a few million dollars ??!) was put aside and both parties finally agree to make more billions !!!

It's going to be a two-parter with back-to back-annual releases (ala LotR).

I hope I can survive 'til 2010 and 2011 ;)
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#27477
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Interesting...
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#27478
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Stefan--the director part is still up in the air. No word either way if he's directing or not. The rumor mill says, "There was no word on who would direct the films." (see this link for reference: www.clickondetroit.com/entertainment/14882168/detail.html )

Still, very exciting news! I read the entire book to my four-year-old son last winter. He absolutely loved it and wants to "see the movie." ;-}~
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#27479
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
This one is going to be a great deal harder to direct I think....will there be singing? Hmmmm......can't wait to see Goldberry:)
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#27480
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
This is going to be awesome! I really like the idea of a "sequel" to The Hobbit that ties it to the Lord of the Rings. There is a lot of cool stuff in those years -- like the driving out of the Witch King. Hey, maybe we can even see Legolas, Aragorn, Gimli, and some other elves.
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#27481
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Perhaps now would be a good time to start long term planning for the great outdoors?
Spiders of Mirkwood style forest set? Hedges and fields and cart track pieces?

(Sounds of a hand grenade being thrown)

Just an idea?

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#27482
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
ok what book/books take place between the hobbit and lotr. obvioulsy not a story but ther must be a reference book. i cant see both Gimli and Legolas making it into the movie. Would be cool to see the Balin dwarves in Moria before they died
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#27483
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
ok what book/books take place between the hobbit and lotr. obvioulsy not a story but ther must be a reference book. i cant see both Gimli and Legolas making it into the movie. Would be cool to see the Balin dwarves in Moria before they died
there are some references by Tolkien himself to actions in the appendices B of return of the King Check out: "TheOneRing.net" for lots of info...
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#27484
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
Perhaps this time Peter Jackson will see fit to actually use Tolkien's words and dialogue rather than his own inept and crude substitutions.

I can understand the liberties taken with the LoTR story (though I don't agree with them) but I can't imagine WHY he felt the need to alter the very words the man wrote. Some really beautiful writing was totally left out or changed - did Jackson really think it was better with his own words instead of Tolkien's?

Sorry for the rant, but the one chance do get the movie made and done right for the big screen and they didn't even use the man's words!!!!

Shameful!
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#27485
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
While I can understand your purist sentiments, Harneloot, I do have to voice my disagreement. Jackson was making a MOVIE and screen writing is vastly different from LITERATURE. As far as "inept and crude" ... I think making BILLIONS world-wide speaks for the adept interpretation of Tolkien's INTENT. The story was well told (yes, with differences), and introduced countless people to it and the genre, as a whole. It generated vast interest in the books and led people to Tolkien's words if they chose to follow that path and read his fantastic works.

Were the movies a visual retelling of Tolkien's story? Absolutely. Were they a re-creation, word-for-word, scene-by-scene? Hardly. You will never find any such theatrical endeavor. It would be impossible given the time and financial constraints let alone the all-important "mass appeal" factor. As much as you love Tolkien's actual words, another may find them secondary to the greater whole of the story and imagery he created. As much a Tolkien fan as I am, I find The Silmarillion a tedious bore (so much so that I couldn't even make it through the audio books).

I suppose there will always be dissent when beloved literature is transformed into moving pictures. We all have our own impressions and imaginings of what the worlds and characters look like and, when someone else puts a face to them, we almost feel cheated - as if someone were tresspassing. We, as viewers have to keep in mind that there are trade-offs in translating word to image. A movie isn't intended to be a word-for-word replica of the literature, it can't be. Look at all the Biblical Epics ... the stories are told (some from only a few chapters of the Bible) but with amazing artistic license to generate an epic film of mass appeal, yet the message is told.

Again, the purists can never be pleased short of an exact, word-for-word re-telling of the literature and, sadly, they will loose the enjoyment and experience of what was an amazing undertaking and work of dedication. Speaking for myself, I would rather enjoy the re-telling and then allow myself to be inspired to go read the books twice again over the last few years.

Apologies for my counter rant. I just don't understand such a hard-line, black-or-white stance when appreciating "the beauty in grey" (to quote a "Live" song) would allow one to enjoy the retelling of such a loved tale.

Oh, and for the record, I, too, love Tolkien's words ... but I expect I will laugh myself right out of the theater if all the songs from The Hobbit are in the movie. It would "kid-ify" the story too much for me to enjoy the movie (think Ewoks).

Peace and goodnight !!
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#27486
The HOBBIT is COMING!! 6 Years, 7 Months ago  
I think one of my friends had the best insight on this debate, at least IMHO --

We'd spent hours discussing what we really missed, objected to, and generally disliked about the movies, which on the whole we really loved. Finally, my friend said "The thing is, if I'd have made these movies, I probably would have gotten these 10 things right which they got wrong -- but I also would have gotten wrong the THOUSANDS of things they got right."

These movies were such epic undertakings, done in such a comparatively tight timeframe, that even Jackson and crew admit they made mistakes and would have done things differently now. But I feel as though I have to admire the accomplishment on the whole, rather than quibble with some of the details, even when those details aren't really in any way minor. (to avoid making this thread a COMPLETE internet cliche, I won't start listing the specifics on my objections)

The movies are classics -- as with all art, there's a subjective element and not everyone is ever going to agree. Not everyone has to like them, or even tolerate them. But they're well-respected and loved by many, they're going to be around for a long time, and that's something that can be objectively admitted to be a real accomplishment, even by those who don't happen to like them.

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