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#13853
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I'm not unique. There are thousands of me everywhere. We cover the world! :D

Silliness aside, I think the point is for people to know the geographic location of other forum members so that Dwarven Forge fans that find others within a passable distance can perhaps get together in person.

I've gotten to recently show off some of the cavern sets at the local game shop, with much interest from the gamers there. That, and the dead Dwarf in the first encounter, seem to have made something of a stir.
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#13854
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I have had enough friends get into bad situations with people they met online (including the possibility of actual bodily harm) that I will NEVER knowingly give enough information to be located by an online acquaintance, no matter how well we might get along via forums or e-mail. Nor would I agree to meet someone at my home, their (purported) home, or my FLGS.

I MIGHT meet them at a convention in another town, and based on THAT meeting might be open to developing a more solid friendship. The internet is home for a lot of very unsavory sorts, and it is almost impossible to ascertain what someone is actually like from communicating through e-mail, forums, or even instant messaging.

But if someone I met online did try to track me down at home, I would probably notify the police, inform a reliable friend, and start keeping an "incident log" of unusual and suspicious events in case that person did turn out to be... funny. Sad to say it, but it's a dangerous world out there, and I will not take chances with my safety, nor that of the people I love.
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#13855
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Well, you make a good point jackattack, but if you look at the vagueness of RF's location.... which could be geographically be considered around 1/3 of the U.S.....

My point is, that IF you wish to comply with RF's request (which you certainly do not have to, and do not believe RF will take exception) then you could be a vague as him... which leaves little chance of being tracked down...

Cheers
Robert
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#13856
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
My location is "vague" Celtchief because I currently work in six of those states (Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming & Utah) per on a current assignment basis plus I claim a seventh (California) as my homestate because I have spent the most time there in my life than any other state.
As a result, I game in most of those states and can, pending location based on assignment, arrange to game with persons in those locales.
That is why it is "vague".

Some here claim to just reflect their own individuality and unfortunately that is what most people think.
Then why does profiling work so well?
I know it does because there are two specialists at my job, and they are dead accurate far more times than off.
Additionally, profiling works on many levels including ethnicity, religion, nationality, socio-economic level, etc. including hobbies (e.g. gaming).

Yes, all here are individuals and therefore are unique to some degree.
On the other hand, everyone here does not live in a vaccuum so they and the way they communicate are also a product of their environment(s).
So persons from Europe are going to post just a bit different, at least, than North Americans and Asians and so forth.

Plus, anyone here expressing concern about international issues and Dwarven Forge do not want to really hear at all from some twenty-something pleb who is from the U.S.A..
With location and maybe some other info from a prior posting or more, the international Master Maze enthusiast can more easily discern whether or not to take this person and their post seriously.

On a very serious note, jackattack is profoundly correct about physically meeting people you meet on the WEB.
My group deals with that problem a bit from a sidewise perspective and slant in fulfilling our primary focus; so meets of this variety can be downright nerve-wracking or WORSE.
Jackattack gives excellent advice about such situations though I would not prohibit my FLGS as a meet locale; I would have plenty of buddies there for back-up and counter-recon though whether at my FLGS, an out-of-town con or anywhere else the meet is going down at.

As far as what we all do here, location just gives the final key, more often than not, to understand the coloring of what one is saying here so as a result understand better what exactly is being typed.
Just look at the vets here and their sense of humor if you are looking for an easy example of coloring.
The "40 and over" crowd is another good example.
Look at Jim for a perfect example of both!
He is the "pops" of this unit at 55 (that's correct, right?), are you not Jim?
Plus, he is a vet.

Lastly, Celtchief is right - I cannot (I am not a an employee or other of DF) force anyone to register a location.
I am just saying that it would be great to have your locale present in your profile so as to better understand what you post.
"That's all folks!"
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#13857
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Actually RF, I was pretty sure your location was the Western U.S. because you love playing Risk, and you look at the world through a Risk board!

Just Fun'in ya!

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#13858
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Plus, anyone here expressing concern about international issues and Dwarven Forge do not want to really hear at all from some twenty-something pleb who is from the U.S.A... With location and maybe some other info from a prior posting or more, the international Master Maze enthusiast can more easily discern whether or not to take this person and their post seriously.
How does knowing someone's location tell us how old they are? Or their level of education? Or just about anything else about them? Is the opinion of someone in Kansas less valid than the opinion of someone in Massachusetts? Is a twenty year old student in International Business less qualified to speak than a forty-five year old English teacher? Are we planning to impose a moritorium on all postings from U.S. DF customers regarding international issues?

Sometimes a fresh perspective is a very valuable thing, and young minds are often a great source for innovative ideas. In addition, (patiently) explaining complex issues/ideas to someone else is a very good way to sort them out in one's own head, and to gain valuable insight into those issues/ideas AND one's own thinking. Dialog is better than dictation.

While psychological profiling might work, it is a specialized high-end skill that very few people possess, and has little to do with where the subject lives. It is best left in the hands of qualified law enforcement personnel who are acting within the scope of their duties, not being used by gamers who want to decide who to include or exclude from online conversations. Let's judge each other by our conduct on the forums and the content of our posts, not by regionality or age or hair color or any other arbitrary factor.

This has gone from asking for location to wanting to know age and background. Throw in gender, and we might as well ask "ASL" of every new forum-goer as they come in.
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#13859
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In the recent past, my 'location' has been used as a motive for unfounded criticism and attacks. I would not like to see other forum members receive similar attention based purely on their stated homeland.
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#13860
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Here we go again!

RF*;

Yup. 55 as of 12/2; I'm not afraid of telling how old I am.

Jackattack;
The reason Foxman knows how old I am is because, 1) My sig line says point-blank I'm a Vietnam Veteran, which gives at least SOME guidline of age; mid-fifties is minimum age for a 'Nam boy, and 2) I once said I was 55 in one of my posts, which pretty much nails it down, since if there's ONE THING RabidFox* has, it's either a near-eidetic memory, or he writes down everything someone tells him.

otherworld;
Your opinions are your business, they are the ONLY thing you can prove, forever and always, to God and everyone else, are EXCLUSIVELY your own. I damn-well-dare ANYONE to take them away from you, and whether or not I agree with you on ANY of them or not, if you EVER need backup on keeping and protecting them, you tell me. That's ONE FIGHT I want in on, and by your side. Even though you and I have argued - sometimes vehemently - over some of those same opinions, or some of my own. And I suspect RabidFox* would be on the other side of you, standing with us, defending those same opinions. For the same reason.
OR, to put it another way; Voltaire was 100% RIGHT. A paraphrase of his statement was, "I may not agree with your opinion, but I will defend - TO THE DEATH - your right to express it." And that's where I'M coming from.
And that also goes for YOU, jackattack, and YOU, RabidFox*.

Beyond that, 'location' can, and does, have a valid bearing on the opinions one expresses here on the DF forum, and elsewhere. If one knows where a fellow poster lives, and where - within some limits - that person grew up, or where they formed their opinions and beliefs, one will have a start in understanding that person. Communication is the FIRST step in understanding each other, and understanding is the first step in peaceful relationships. While I don't know about any of the other people who regularly post here, I prefer to have peaceful relationships with everyone here; it makes for less stomach acid production. IF I want to fight with anyone here, I'll drag out the D20 and issue the challenge there. A tour in Vietnam and 7.5 years as a Federal Police Officer are all the mortal combat I ever want to go through. ESPECIALLY as a 55-year old fart.

Beyond that, I say, "You wanna hide where your from, for WHATEVER reason, then don't tell. it's none of MY business, I'm just trying to understand YOU."

See ya!

Jim
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#13861
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
It's not a question of hiding, Jim, I just don't see why people should have to hand out sticks for others to beat them with.
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#13862
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I haven't really followed this thread much...but it is certainly my opinion (that I hope all will defend my right to express!) that there is more then a bit of a lot about mostly nothing here. I suggest everyone just move on and do whatever it is they think is right for them. Lets talk gaming, minatures, modeling, DF MM and whatever interests and let everyone decide for themselves how much they want to reveal about themselves, their whereabouts, gaming experience or whatever they deem to be relevant. Just my opinion of course...feel free to argue further if you wish...
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#13863
Location 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Actually THOTH your opinion is just fine; you at least do not throw stones and then cry foul if some ricouchet back at you.
I agree with you at this point that the thread has become worthless (even the comedy that a few of us were playing with has died) because the Sassy Ogre has weighed in, expecting obeisance and now lurks menacingly.
The Sassy Ogre's opinion is, of course, the only valid one on this subject or any other.
Anything else I can "say" THOTH in humor and/or in hope of productivity is a total waste of effort because the Sassy Ogre has arrived, and it will be bothered if I say any more and doing so is not worth it here right now.
It cries "Foul" too often and so blubberingly.

For those involved:
The "campaign" gentlemen, ladies and creatures has been fun.
Let's try it again elsewhen and elsewhere.
Maybe we can equip the other side of the "Dwarven" Kitchens the next time.
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#13864
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Grrrrrrraaaaaaarrrrrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!
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