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#61499
games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Has anyone ever used this before? I needed to fill in some cracks. This is their recommended product but I found it impossible to work with. Now I've got a tower that looks like crap and I don't know how well I can clean it up
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#61508
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I've used it an find it challenging. I much prefer regular millput (it's cheaper but a little harder to mix). For whatever reason, I have more luck getting millput to set than I do with GW greenstuff. I'm no professional sculptor but find keeping my fingers/tools wet with water or aloe gel helps to smooth it out without leaving fingerprints or weird marks everywhere.
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#61512
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
You need small sculpting tools; some toothpicks might be enough. You need to constantly dip your tools in water. You need practice. Green stuff is a classic in the hobby and is a material very often used to sculpt highly detailed miniatures. I would suggest you buy it from a source that keeps the yellow and blue parts separate as when they're bound together in strips, they slightly blend together over time and solidify at the junction.
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#61524
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
This is the tool I was using. Worked a lot better after I started getting it wet but still difficult
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#61525
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Other end of the tool
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#61531
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Adding another voice. Working with Milliput is a far easier product for 'filling in the gaps'. You can mix it easily in small amounts between your finger & thumb. Adding a little water then allows you to make it nice and slimy so you can push it deep into the cracks that you are trying to fill. (I would regularly assemble dragons and oner multi-part metal figures before they were painted. first clean, then pin, then fill and re-model with Milliput)
As well as the odd sculpting took (I prefer plastic ones sold to people who work with ceramics / clay)
Small wooden cocktail sticks are great because you can wet them and they hold a certain level of dampness and therefore do not drag the material you want to slip into those cracks and crevasses. You can also blunt them as you need and loved that once you had soaked one for an hour - that they would bend and flex wonderfully.
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#61534
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Green Stuff is indeed the industry standard for mini sculpture-- probably more miniature master models are made using that than anything else (for example, probably most of the Reaper Bones sculpts were made with it); in fact masters are commonly called "greens" for that reason-- and it has many virtues, but it definitely takes a while to get the hang of working with it.

If you've got some hardened on in a way you're not happy with, it can be removed with a hobby knife or a Dremel point tip and you can start again, but there's not too much else you can do with it once it's hardened.

You might want to try Milliput instead, but since you've got a bunch of Green Stuff, it's probably worth playing around with it to get a sense of how it works. If you do want to use that, here's what I'd suggest:

1. Mix it in very small batches if you're just filling small cracks. Say, a ball no more than about 6 mm across. It only adheres well for the first 15 minutes or so of its working time.

2. Apply it three phases:

a. Get it onto the model. Try to make sure you have about the right amount, but don't worry too much about the detail at this point. Get it all on there relatively quickly before you move on to the next step.

b. Smooth it in. The tool you have should be fine for this, but you may want to experiment with other types. As others said, keeping it lubed is important. Water works fine but you have to re-wet a metal tool often; vaseline works better. Keeping a bit of vaseline on the thumbnail of the hand holding the model, where you can dip into it easily, works well. To smooth the stuff on, work from the center toward the edges where it meets the model surface with firm steady pressure. It will take quite a few strokes to get it blended in well, but if you're persistent you can make the blend seamless.

c. Add whatever texture you want to the surface (fur, scales, stone, etc.) Here's where other tools might come in handy. Some kind of sharp point is generally very useful. A needle or a pin is often a good choice for small work. Smaller gauges of knitting needles can also be great tools. Wax carvers / clay tools / dental picks of various sorts all have their uses. I have a pile of different tools I use for different purposes; but really you can get by with two or three for most tasks.

If you're going to be doing a lot of this, there's a product called a "color shaper" available from various art places (Dick Blick, for one); many professional sculptors use these especially for smoothing epoxy putties. Basically it's a paint brush handle but instead of a brush there's a firm rubber head in one of several shapes; the "chisel point" is probably the most useful. The size 0 (the smallest) is the best for this sort of work. A set of the 5 or 6 different styles can be had for about $25. They're nice because they will smooth the putty on without leaving the hard lines you get from a metal tool; also they don't tend to stick as much so they don't need so much lube.

Hopefully all this is helpful!
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#61538
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Does hobby lobby carry milliput?
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#61543
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jimibones83 wrote:
Does hobby lobby carry milliput?


the online stores does. found lots of place just by using google.
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#61830
Re:games workshop green stuff 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Also if you are filling really small cracks/areas Games workshop makes a product called liquid green stuff, comes in a paint pot and is much more fluid and easier to work with can be "painted" into the cracks with an old brush.

Like everyone else has said Green stuff is easy to work with once you have some practice, but can be a bit difficult at the beginning, people tend to use more than they need and that causes a lot of sculpting time to clean it up.
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