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#40126
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 12 Months ago  
Awesome! Thanks so much for posting the pics.

It's coming along really nicely. I'm trying to decide the extent to which I will rip off your approach. ;)

One thing I like about the GW stuff is how it gives you some creative control over the final look -- not only how it's painted, obviously, but also which bits you include and which you leave off. I would love to find some old bars somewhere so I can add a railing to the little balconies on the upper floors -- the bare exposed ledges look clumsy to me.

But I do have to decide what color scheme to use. I don't want it to look too outrageous or I'll get bored with it quickly, but I do think slate grey would be a bit too dull. I was thinking of going for a flagstone look, with a basic grey backdrop interrupted by stones of different colors here and there. Or I could go with a light brownish grey and a white, almost marble color for the highlights. Hmmm......


Really like this piece. I do wish they'd left out some of the busy bits -- they love their skull alcoves, and just about every nook has to have something poking through, it's a bit too ADD for me. On the other hand, this is clearly a wizard tower, not a regular old fortress, so having it be so busy is somewhat appropriately "arcane."
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#40128
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 12 Months ago  
Thanks Law,
if I remember correctly these Tors are supposed to be towers they stow away unwanted wizards (or witches) in before they get their trial and their burning. This means you can guess where all those skulls come from...
Anyway, concerning the painting, you might consider painting the whole stoney surface in one color and then giving some single stones a different one, representing them using whatever stones came to hand or even some enchanted ones to protect them from the magic of the ones jailed inside.


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#40129
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 12 Months ago  
Oh, absolutely on the painting tip. I'm not new at this...

My plan is to coat the whole thing with a matte black primer, then drybrush it in increasing shades of a brown/grey mix. Then I'll pick out some stones to do in a slightly lighter brown.

For the various bits 'n' bobs, I'll probably do things like doorframes and window frames by drybrushing lighter and lighter grey until I finish off with pure white for a white stone look. The various skull alcoves I'll probably do in a bone of some kind, there's no better way to do them IMHO. The various plaques and flagstone type things I'll also do as a white stone or marble look. I'll probably treat the elf stone fragments as regular stone, though, not too crazy about them.

I'm fairly certain I'll do the base floor machinery is a somewhat monochrome steampunk look, with mostly greasy silver and copper. Sorta the way I did the interior of the recent Skaven Doomwheel (I posted pics in several threads, including in some of my Dwarven Mine stuff -- I used it so often people started poking fun at me!)

EDIT: here's a pic: www.dwarvenforge.com/images/fbfiles/images/067-8f726a2500de49ab37fcc535f3e18613.JPG

And then the roof, not sure what I'll do there. I like the red and gold look, but at the same time that seems to be so traditional it's a bit obvious. Wonder if I will do something else. Meh, probably not. I really like how it looks.
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#40158
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 11 Months ago  
I picked this bad boy up -- the box is GINORMOUS. It's pretty awesome.

One thing I didn't anticipate that's pretty cool is that the tower is made up entirely of 1/4 ring pieces that have the exact same puzzle-shape. That means that you have what you need to assemble four rings out of the pieces however you like. There are limited options, since only 8 of the 16 pieces are unique -- the rest are duplicates. But the 8 pieces are pretty nice: you get doorways, two different kinds; two different kinds of fresco pieces; you get window pieces; you get the skull alcoves; you get the top tower pieces. (There may actually only be 6 unique elements, now that I think about it; I haven't checked the top to see if it's the same piece four times or if there are subtle variations) As a result, if you wanted, say, to make all four doorways on the ground floor and none above, you could. If you wanted to put both of the skull alcove pieces on the same floor, you can; or you can place them separately. And so on.

Some other choices: there are trap doors for the roof, that can be glued open, glued shut, or left removeable. There is a central skull on the roof that, if left off, leaves a hole in the roof, which could look deliberate. There are balconies that can be left off. There are support columns which can be left off.

And the set comes with the pieces you'd need to make ruins, so you can make essentially two Dreadstone Blights out of this (or 1 1/2, since there's still only one base).

I really like this trend towards customizability that GW has been getting into for the past 5 years or so -- as more and more sets are done in plastic, we're getting more options in how we put things together.

So far, I've gotten everything primed black. It's going to be a LONG time before I get through all this, with the kids and work and all. But it'll be a fun project.
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#40159
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 11 Months ago  
Can't wait to see some pics of the finished product!
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#40163
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 11 Months ago  
Hehe, Law, you know what?
Everything you said was right, but I'd never find such eloquent words for it, at least not in english :-)

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#40174
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 11 Months ago  
Wow, thanks!

Here's my progress report: I primed everything black, and assembled the basic components. Now the big paint begins.

For people considering buying this, a few words of advice:

First, this requires modeling experience, or at least a great deal of patience and attention. It is actually kinda frustrating. I've assembled some models before where the pieces fall flush against one another and everything just fits perfectly. The doomwheel was somewhat like that, as have many recent GW plastics. But this one is a bit of a nightmare. The pieces don't interlock, the fit is way too tight. I supposed at first that it was deliberate but it actually doesn't serve any advantage that isn't outweighed by the real disadvantage that forcing the last bit of any ring into place will seriously jeopardize prior connections. Plus, getting everything to line up properly is that much harder.

So I had to cut away some of the bricks with an exacto knife so they'd insert more smoothly. I worried at first that it would leave unsightly gaps, but actually it was such a necessary step that even after slicing away chunks of the pieces, they still fit snugly against one another with no gaps. Yeah, this is NOT ready for assembly right out of the box.

The instructions advise you to be careful about making sure the floors line up with the stairs below (as there's a gap in the floor where the stairs reach each level), but since you aren't gluing the floors in place, you can presumably rotate each to make sure things line up. So really, it's more accurate to say make sure you have things where you want them so they are oriented as you like. It will always be possible to line them up, but if you have a special preference for what counts as the "front," make sure you're paying attention so that it ends up in front.

Finally, and this is something for which there may not be a remedy, the design of the floors is somewhat frustrating. The floors come in three pieces, all rotting wood and broken floorboards. Presumably this makes it easier to cast, and it also makes it possible to make a ruined tower with a partial floor on the higher levels. BUT it also means the floors aren't a single solid block, and even when glued together, their connections aren't all that strong, which gives the final structure a slightly unstable feel. The floor is an added stabilizing element to the walls, and with it feeling a bit like a bunch of matchsticks, it makes the whole thing feel more like it's prone to breakage. Finally, there's the fact that instead of gluing the walls on top of the floor, you're gluing the floor to the side of the walls -- the glue connection is from the side of the floor piece to the walls, rather than the underside of the walls to the top of the floor. (I hope that's clear).

As a result, it feels less secure to me. Gluing the walls actually onto the top of the floor would feel more secure to me. Placing the floor alongside the wall and gluing it laterally means the glue point will get a lot more strain if there are heavy metal miniatures in the model.

Anyhoo. It's a very nice model, and I will add a positive note at the end, which is that if you aren't a fantastic modeller (and I really feel like I messed this up in places), the design lends itself to making your errors look deliberate. There are already gaps in the structure, and its general ramshackle appearance means that if you've got gaps or broken pieces or general messiness, it will fit right in. Once you coat it in paint, it's going to look pretty imposing, and even if it's totally lopsided and uneven, that's not going to look wrong. ;)

I'm really happy with it overall, and now that I've finally gotten it assembled, I'm less worried about the challenge I had in gluing it together and more worried about it staying together over the long haul. I've already broken my plastic Valkyrie kit that I did a few months ago, and I've shattered many a Hirst Arts structure over the years. That's why DF always remains on top for me -- so much more stable!

Still, for people who can't wait any longer for a DF tower set, this is a pretty awesome tower.
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#40177
Re:Pretty cool wizard tower from GW 3 Years, 11 Months ago  
Well, I didn't read the instructions, just took a look at the pictures, but I am doing this for over 20 years now...
Anyhow....this tower, as I learned today, will only be available while stocks last. At least here in Europe, it might be different over the 'pond'.

I really have no clue why, as designing and making the mould for such a huge plastic kit costs tons of money, but well, enjoy it while it is still there.


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