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#30475
WotC Non Random Packs.... 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
I saw over at EN-World that WotC has a new Plan to make some Non Random Mini Packs.

Depending on what they are this could be cool. i know my purchases of DDM has fallen off due to poor looks, and just not that interested in some of them (some of the angels etc) So watching this, and hoping if it does well they may do Droid, clone, Stromtrooper etc packs for SW as well....
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#30476
WotC Non Random Packs.... 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
I think that's a no-brainer for wargamers. Almost all of our SWM purchases have been through eBay sellers selling "army packs" and the like. Random packs are fun to some degree (it appeals to the gambler within), but it's just not useful for large-scale gaming.
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#30477
WotC Non Random Packs.... 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Guess WOTC wants a piece of the E-Bay mini market, hey?

I'm going to maintain a "wait and see" attitude....hopefully whatever they put out will be painted a bit better than what has been included in the last few sets.
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#30478
WotC Non Random Packs.... 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Not sure if they want a part of the E-bay market, from way back they said they always had the secondary market as part of the design, ie they wanted people to be able to buy trade sell them just like Magic, and many stores do, and further in the link the guy reporting said
"No, specifically they are looking at putting out non-random minis, in addition to the random ones. No word on whether they will have different bases (I asked) but they are talking about boxed sets and singles. They also said they don't want to hurt the secondary market. They do want to reach people that are not buying the randoms."
E-bay is a big part of the secondary market, so my thought would be the only way not to do it (hurt the secondary) would be New minis, ie not just redoes of the older ones, or else the secondary market will be hurt. So maybe a box or single set of PC's (various races/classes, or even maybe they have read the stuff on Reapers boards about Towns folk! and will make some of them, and box sets of say Orcs, kobolds, goblins, or things that go together in the 4th MM.
They might do some repaints (so different and less impact on the secondary market) of older stuff, but i kind of doubt they will have Stat cards (or at least non for the skirmish) as the people who seem most interested in non random, want things for the RPG, Villians, Pc's or Grunts (though Army builders want them as well) so it will also lessen the impact if on secondary if they aren't Skirmish legal.

But then i'm just guessing, what ever it is if they want it in the first 6 months of 2009, it is likely getting decided soon, and the first ones off to production by the end of the year.

Paint quality hasn't been my issue (never really has) in the last few, it's the really stupid (in my mind) sculpts on soooo many that i don't like, and why my purchases have totally dropped off.

I admit i still like buying the SWM by booster but then i want all of them, and if i get 500 Stormtroopers on the quest for all of them, i don't care (or sith troopers, or Mandalorians, etc, i want loads of some of the grunts, i am even at the point of repainting some of the total grunt Mandies to get variation in them) and i am more of an RPGer than war gammer so i want the loads of things for NPC's or customizing.
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#30479
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 9 Months ago  
Pictures of the Non Random minis are up!




Poor Quality Close Ups
www.ddmspoilers.com/phb_01.php

Not really thrilled about any of the new ones 4 or 5 of these are Repaints, i just really hate the look of 4th for the new ones, and the others are, wait Reprints of stuff i already have, so uhm wow will be passing on those....

So where is the Prommised Better Sculpting or is it is now just better Paint jobs. While i admit the repaints are from the time when they had good sculpting... so i guess compaired to the New waves these are good sculpts, as they go back to pre junk days when they sculpted well... just a disapointment nothing i am interested in.
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#30480
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 9 Months ago  
I'll reserve final judgement until I see them "up-close-n-personal" but some of them sure look to be colored a little too vibrantly ...

... to the point of "silly clown" rather than "heroic adventurer". But we'll see ... a paint wash can easily help that.

I'm definitely NOT excited about any repaints, though. I want NEW plasti-crack not a rehash or a re-paint of existing figures.

Regardless, it looks like WOTC will be introducing a lot of SKUs to retailers shelves this spring.
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#30481
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 9 Months ago  
I went to the WotC forums and dug around a bit, the reason for the 4 Repaints is, they had to. With needing 36 minis for the Hero figs in the various sets, they didn't have the minis coming down the pipe to do them from what was in production with Fey wild and the next set , and i guess sure that they are in the Arcane and martial, the largest block of figs with 24 needed figures, so it seems to be a logical reason...
it just seems to me to put the 4 in one set makes it far less Wow factor, i'd rather have seen 2 now and 2 in the next set to try show us new stuff.
PLee says that they aren't doing repaints later (nor in the monsters, which would have more figure types than the heroes in a set), as there was a shortage of needed figures in this first outing, but darn if the first set, with over 20% of it being reprints is like Reapers LE and is just falling short on things of real intrest. I guess they are "shorting" the first run and doing all new in the second, but with 4 repaints, eh not interested in anything, no Monks, and the Arcane are only 4-5 new figs i don't like. (why arcane and monks easy to convert to other systems for me).
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#30482
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
ddmspoilers has pictures from DDXP of most likely all the Visibles from the new "semi random" packages....

Uhm wow, :-P to most of them, oddly the only one i like is the one getting really panned.. :)
hordelings.com/cache/3d3d16c9d5432a8b268eb0f4568d1613_0x-1x0.png
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Gallery with a few more things, and names.

www.ddmspoilers.com/mm_01.php
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#30483
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Actually, I am looking forward to most of these, but particularly the Hippogriff and the Frost Giant.

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#30484
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Here's the full set list:

* Aboleth Slime Mage
* Arbalester
* Aspect of Vecna
* Banshrae Warrior
* Beholder Eye Tyrant
* Berbalang
* Bladerager Troll
* Blood Scarab
* Bloodseeker Drake
* Bonechill Chimera
* Chain Devil
* Clay Golem
* Cyclops Crusher
* Feygrove Choker
* Foulspawn Grue
* Frost Giant
* Ghaele of Winter
* Githyanki Warrior
* Githzerai Zerth
* Gnoll Huntmaster
* Goblin Delver
* Goblin Sharpshooter
* Grimlock Minion
* Harpy
* Hellstinger Scorpion
* Hippogriff
* Kobold Wyrmpriest
* Kruthik Young
* Medusa Archer
* Minotaur Battle Shaman
* Orc Eye of Gruumsh
* Orc Terrorblade
* Rust Monster
* Skalmad, the Troll King
* Snake Swarm
* Unicorn
* War Devil
* Xen'drik Drow Stingblade
* Young Gold Dragon
* Yuan-Ti Fangblade
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#30485
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Maybe it's just that ROTA has me inspired, and consequently I'm digging just about everything these days, but I'm really psyched for some of these. I think the new packaging is really eye-catching, I think many of the sculpts look great, and I love the idea that I can grab as many monsters as I want without getting bogged down in humans. Like many others, after so many sets, I'm pretty weary of the standard humanoids -- bring me more monstrous aberrations and funky underdark creatures!

Of course, the real test will be how these stand up to the oft-repeated theory "If you could see 'em in the package, all the cool ones would immediately sell out and you'd only find goblins everywhere..."

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#30486
WotC Non Random Packs.... 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
I agree with L on this one... I might actually get back to buying boosters instead of singles on the second hand market... a good thing for WOTC.
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