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#29837
4E Experience 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
I got to run 4E with the rules in hand. I've noted that with the notable exception of minions (1 hp each), everyone has a lot more hit points than in previous editions. It takes several rounds to put away a single opponent, so no one-shot kills (again, minions are the exception to the rule). I do like some of the attack options that allow you to move an opponent - that works wickedly well in conjunction with the Chasm set. Pushing or sliding an opponent off the edge is a good way to finish them off.

While I still dislike the rules about shooting into melee without penalty and allies not providing cover for enemies, the players discovered that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. A pair of goblin sharpshooters were poised atop the stone bridge and were firing on the Dwarf to fairly good effect, despite the wall of goblins in front of him.

I found that the luck of things still tends to work in favor of the storyline in my games. The Dwarf died a valiant death on the stone bridge against hobgoblin soldiers (the player was very pleased), and the blowhard NPC that had hired the PCs, Ulli the Bold, got shoved off the edge of the chasm by the hobgoblin warcaster.

Some things I only noted during game play. Not only do Dwarves lack darkvision in 4E, but so do goblinoids! That's going to change how I have to run goblins for 4E, though I had mine whisk off the cover of a lantern as the PCs showed up.

think my favorite monster thus far is the Cavern Choker. They get a neat camouflage ability that grants them concealment, and have reach 2 (but not threatening reach - no opportunity attacks beyond normal). While they have an opponent grabbed, they can react to an attack vs. AC or Reflex by interposing their victim (Body Shield). The Dwarf got hit by his buddies several times, despite his pleas: "Stop... attacking... it!!!"

:D
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#29838
4E Experience 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
Aren't minions great? What a good way to add a bunch of cannon fodder that can't be ignored. Previously, if you added a whole bunch of creatures, they'd be something like 20 goblins with 2 ogre magi. The players could just ignore the goblins until the ogres were dealt with, as the goblins wouldn't be able to hit or do damage. Now, you can't ignore the minions. Yes, they die if damaged, but they can deal out the dmg and generally create havoc.
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#29839
4E Experience 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
Yep, minions are cool - they can provide a harassing threat, while still allowing the PCs to use abilities like Cleave to good effect. Mixed in with Goblin skirmishers, they provide a nice melee force while the sharpshooters pick away at the PCs.

This was a quickie setup that I put together the day before for the game. I am very grateful for the Tilemaker software so that I could map the cavern. I had to draw in the Chasm pieces, but that still beats drawing the whole thing by hand.

I think I'll do some thinking on terrain that can be used to the advantage of both sides. The elevated stone bridge was a good piece, but I think I'll throw in stalactites that the PCs can try to knock down on enemies (and vice versa), boulders that can be rolled at opponents (the one from the Trap Set is ideal), and I might have the stone bridge be more fragile, so that a good attack might break it and drop someone into the chasm. Toss in some shields and weapons left strewn on the ground with the skeletons of previous victims and we're set.

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#29840
4E Experience 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
www.colinburns.com/games/mastermaze/Drawings.zip

Here is what I used for KublaCon with everything so far as drawings.
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#29841
4E Experience 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
I ran a summer game at Boy Scout camp, we got up to level 5, with our 4th ed. game. Even the "I homebrew everything and nothing is good enough till i tinker with it" guy was, "Alright, I have to admit, its a better system then I thought it would be, I'm having fun."

What I noticed is that minions make some abilities and spells very useful... such as the dragonborns breath, or cleave... I mean, they are OK against a regular monster, but against minions they can wreak havoc.

Also, because rounds go quicker, but you get more rounds per combat, which means the tactical combat becomes more involved. I dig it.

All in all, it's a good game system, and the retail numbers bear out WOTC's faith in their product, they are going onto there 3rd printing.

Later
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#29842
4E Experience 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Last week I ran a 4E game for the D&D Meetup with six 1st level PCs. The players had a ball, even the player of the Dwarf cleric (the sole PC fatality). I set them up in a simple dungeon with with some low-level monsters and a few traps.

They had fun with the shadowhunter bats, which I'd made a winnable fight because the ceiling was too low for the bats to stay out of reach - their flyby attack would otherwise have been really nasty.

The last encounter was seven goblins: one hexer, two archers, and four cutters (minions). The PCs figured they were easy meat and charged, only to have the Dwarf fall into a pit in front of the goblins. He fell 15 feet (I rolled a single d10 for damage, and got a 10) into a 30' x 30' room, and realized he wasn't alone. My homemade ochre jelly was there waiting for him.

The party wasn't able to save the Dwarf from the ochre jelly, but they did manage to avenge him. After the halfling shoved the sleep-charmed goblin hexer down the pit, the half-elf paladin descended the rope to face the creature in melee. The halfling joined him, and ranged shots from above combined to finish off the beast.

I'm currently working on some more low-level beasties for my games. I have five WHFB bats from their Fantasy Swarms set primed for painting, and a number of stirges from Goodman Games (their Stirge Swarm has seven stirges which I'll use separately). I just picked up four Reaper Dungeon Vermin sets for the beetles - they'll make fine Fire Beetles, plus the sets have spiders, centipedes, and bats.

Whatever the edition, I'll play and have fun.

:D
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#29843
4E Experience 6 Years, 2 Months ago  
Whatever the edition, I'll play and have fun.

:D

Now, it's precisely that attitude that is going to keep everyone in business!
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