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#28632
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 6 Months ago  
seems like WOTC is the only one who can realistically pull it off
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#28633
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Reaper have posted new previews pictures of goblins, werewolf, giant spider and bugbear (august release). The goblins, bugbear and werewolf looks nice.
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#28634
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Meh ... not too impressed, yet again, and a year later.

What's with the bright Mage Knight colors and the lame, run-of-the-mill selections?

So many have clamoured for figures not readily available and not already in our collections (like Townsfolk) and yet they continue to offer "the basics". If they want to make any headway this late in the game they NEED to introduce items that people want and need and haven't already been done ad nauseum.

Just my 2 crowns worth ... again :rolleyes:
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#28635
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
I agree. When the line was first announced, some people said this sort of thing, and I disagreed at the time. If Reaper wants to make a name for itself in prepainted minis, it made sense (I thought) for them to build an entire line, with lots of common minis and then a few more rare things along the way.

But so much time has passed, it seems clear that this line is not going to be anybody's "go to" line for minis. As such, it really seems like they could establish a foothold better by doing some really unusual, otherwise-hard-to-get things first. The conventional wisdom is "but those won't sell to as wide an audience," but I don't think that matters anymore.

Fact is, if they did a really spectacular set of unusual things, people would find a way to work them into their games. And if they did things like common folk, they'd do really well just for selling something absolutely NOBODY else does.

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#28636
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Wow, they finally put in that purchase order, I was on their forums about a week ago and saw the "oh were are working on it" which has been what they are saying for a year, so i never bothered to post anything.

I might get the goblins, but the Spider COME ON, you can buy a BAG of ones for that price, The werewolf is just to over done for my tastes, the Bugbear is ok, but darn I have a lot of those... If i were DMing a 4th ED game I might buy it for a Solo or something... but Again more of the same.

In THEORY they have another 3-4 to go for October... Will wait and see what those look like, but Meh these are largely lame.
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#28637
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
I agree. When the line was first announced, some people said this sort of thing, and I disagreed at the time. If Reaper wants to make a name for itself in prepainted minis, it made sense (I thought) for them to build an entire line, with lots of common minis and then a few more rare things along the way.

But so much time has passed, it seems clear that this line is not going to be anybody's "go to" line for minis. As such, it really seems like they could establish a foothold better by doing some really unusual, otherwise-hard-to-get things first. The conventional wisdom is "but those won't sell to as wide an audience," but I don't think that matters anymore.

Fact is, if they did a really spectacular set of unusual things, people would find a way to work them into their games. And if they did things like common folk, they'd do really well just for selling something absolutely NOBODY else does.

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I was going to go over and post something in the reaper thread about how lack luster the selection is, and say something similar to what you said about at least some interesting for minis selection, and not more of the same old same old, but I think they already answered about the unusual stuff, and it's a no go.
I don't think we will truely get "unusual" things as far as large demons, devil, beholders etc, we might get them in the form of townsfolk, but even then I doubt it for like 2-3 years (mostly due to the rate of release), as they are constantly crying how much this costs them to do a mini, and they can't justify the spending on it, so it will be the "common" things.

The guy in charge of the line had this to say. www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?act=Post&CODE=02&f=48&t=36107&qpid=521331
I saw a pic with gnolls, a female demon and some others. Will those be released eventually?
Not as they were pictured, if at all.

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www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?act=Post&CODE=02&f=48&t=35880&qpid=521385
Any plans to produce more of the larger Reaper figures in plastic?
It all comes down to mold cost. The fewer pieces on a mold the more cost that needs to be deferred into the finished goods.

Eventually, when we get the ball rolling a bit more, we may make larger pieces as we establish the line and we can justify the dollars spent to get a project off the ground. Consider that a large piece like the Warlord Hill Giant (14205) could end up being two molds. That's a lot of up front capitol when we could produce 4-12 models with the same money. Unless we are can sell 4-12 times as many of something larger, it may be a while before we invest the kind of dollars it would take to get it done. I am hopeful that eventually we can go down that path!

That to me says, no nothing to odd, nothing large. Yeah a townsfolk could sell as it's not large, but i just don't see them doing it untill the "ball is rolling". They look like they are goign for the same old same old as it's a seller becuase they are the things everyone needs, even though Towns folk was I think the most requested "medium" sized thing in the what do you want to see thread.

Looks like the line is still Lame.
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#28638
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Why bother at all if they're just going to s-l-o-w-l-y duplicate stuff WoTC has already made, and sometimes already made numerous iterations of?
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#28639
Reaper's pre-pained minis, nearly a year later 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Honestly no clue, really other than it's Reaper's "model".

This goes back to Merric's law of miniatures which was developed back when D&D minis first came out.
Non-Random Packaging, Cheap Prices, and a Large Range of Figures;
Choose two.

Reaper has always choosen the Non-Random, and cheap.
While they Now have a large range, it's been going on for years, and look at the actuall releases, it's a hand full of minis for a given line at a time, like 4-5 once a month. Over time it builds up, and Reaper has sad a number of times they plan on this "long run", so they are following thier tried and true model.

The thing is I don't think it's a model for the customer base. That works great for a customer who buys the minis, and spends time painting them, these are ready to go, and so there is no work required. It's the instant fix, with an instant fix, if you got the money, you want more as there is no down side on your end, it's just you want the supply for your demand.

They Say they are upping supply of new models (a few every other month) but i'll believe it come Oct and Dec, and if it's the same old same old.... This will not be a got source. The only people who really are viewing it as a Go to are the people reaper already has as customers, not a good way to grow a base, if you just keep it.
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#28640
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I couldn't help it, I went in well put my two cent's worth in on the selection, and reaper answered.
www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=36107
Sorry. We're kind of targeting the crowd that needs minis for their tabletop RPG games, so "innovative" isn't exactly what we need. We need creatures that are common in most fantasy RPG settings and systems. Besides, the "boring overdone" orcs and skeletons, Minotaurs, Ogres, Trolls, and Zombies are selling like hotcakes - we're reordering those right alongside the new models because we keep running out.

I apologize that you are not our target audience.

So nope no townsfolk, they will continue to just put ot the classics (werewolf classic and need tons of/ don't see it, spiders need tons of?, heck i can buy a 4 bags at my local dollar store for the price and get more for my $ and have tons if i need tons of spiders) Le is a bust for me, and I suspect that even as mentioned on thier page by someone, yeah it's wargamers looking for cheap proxy minis buying loads of these and not RPG'ers.
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#28641
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"We're tageting the crowd that needs minis for their tabletop RPG games"

???????

Are they completely oblivious to the quite extensive DDM line?
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#28642
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Eh, I honestly think the people who are making them "sell like hotcakes", aren't RPG players but Wargamers looking to get lots of cheap painted proxies. And uhm I have to wonder what the scale of an order is. If they are ordering 100 (yeah I doubt it's that small) yeah they will sell out fast, if they are ordering 750,000...

No they aren't oblivious to the DDM line but according to them, they aren't in competition with DDM...

They only thing I can think to do is, if you think they are crazy let them know, they haven't placed the next wave yet, so maybe maybe we can get a townsfolk in there, for Dec.
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#28643
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... but Wargamers looking to get lots of cheap painted proxies.
That may be the case but I don't see Wargamers having an association with Reaper. It's not like they produce regiments of metal miniatures that the wargaming crowd uses now. They are known as makers of metal RPG / skirmish miniatures.

Other than a Reaper model as a proxy for a character, I don't see wargamers being interested in what they have to offer. And, really, their prices aren't that cheap when you can get DDM commons online en masse for pennies.

Another thing, speaking as a wargamer, fantasy armies are usually arrayed regimentally unless you are playing a skirmish game. DDM bases are a universal size and shape between similar figures. Now, it's a simple fix to glue a reaper fig to a standard base, but if you're looking for something right out of the box, why make more work for yourself?

I am really stumped at Reaper's perspective and the direction they have taken, and are taking, what could have been a promising addition to their product line and the marketplace. This line, it's rediculously slow and boring releases and their apparent refusal to listen to the market, makes this a "Why Bother" for me.

But, then again, I must not be their "target audience" either :D
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