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#25675
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
I agree with all comments -- this is a real risky move. But I will be very interested to see it play out.

It does seem like WOTC just has a completely different approach. There's a constant influx of new product, 60 new minis every few months. Reaper doesn't approach that at all. At the same time, Reaper's stuff is (and LE will be) always out there, even a year or two later you can usually find the same figs. It just means you can take a completely different approach to how you buy things. With WOTC, it's not at all like that.

As I said, I think WOTC's more aggressive approach does yield a lot of benefit -- it's highly profitable to be collectible, and efficient to phase things out. But we'll see how Reaper does...

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#25676
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
My FLGS had these in today, and I picked up the whole series. I'll post pics of them with the DF minis, in a DF environment, hopefully late tonight. They look a LOT better than the pics, but they still probably won't overwhelm people. The minotaur, for example, has a ton more detail than he does in the pic, he looks worlds better. But the orcs and skeletons pretty much look as expected. The figs are less glossy than the pics, I know that point seemed to be particularly grating on some people. But anyway, DF fans should have a clearer sense of these minis soon enough, if I have my way and my camera battery doesn't die...

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#25677
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Excellent - can't wait!
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#25678
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Quick review of these, before I have time for pics:

Overall:

The plastic is stronger than WOTC stuff, but nowhere near as brittle as the DF minis. I expected DF material, for some reason, and it was surprising how bendy the figures are - they stand straighter than WOTC figs, but they aren't in danger of breaking if you drop them or step on them. The spear on the skeleton is a bit bendy as a result, but not too much -- and the orc's spear is fine.

Skeletons:

Paint: on par with WOTC. They HAVE been inkwashed, there's a faint brown wash bringing out some of the details on the ribcages etc. BUT they've also been given dark black paint in the eyesockets and - worse - the nose. They end up looking more than a little cartoonish with black dots for noses, luckily the archer, who has no jaw, is spared this treatment. Up close, when you can make out the detail in the sculpt, they look really good.

Actually, to be fair, the paint IS better than WOTC -- with a WOTC fig, the paint is often so thick that detail is lost. These don't have a lot of paint to bring out the details, but they also don't OBSCURE the details. So that makes them slightly superior.

I know people object to the idea of "touching up" prepainted minis, but personally I think it's great that a quick inkwash will bring out a lot from these figures, since those sculpted details aren't lost under thick, thick paint. Sure, pre-painted minis should be perfect right outa the box (yea, right) but believe me, doing a quick inkwash is a LOT easier than painting a figure from scratch, so these are still timesavers.

Orcs:

Sorta what I expected. My orc spearman has an unpainted belt on his back, and there are silver highlights on the arrows of the archer, for some reason. The colors on the skintones are still too light, and there really isn't nearly enough detail in the musculature. They just don't impress me. Still, they are neat enough for people who want orcs (how many people still need orcs, on the other hand...)

I don't know, they're pretty fun, basic orc figures. Cheap, neat enough. They aren't the Greatest Orcs Ever, but they work well, and you could get a whole tribe together pretty fast. The WOTC orcs are all purple, lately, so for old-school 1E fan like me -- ORCS ARE GREEN. So, neat.

Big 'uns:

Troll: Yeah. The loincloth is a slightly different color than the rest of him, but there's still no real detail or highlight in the paint, the hair under his arms, skin in his ears, all those little details are all just one color. The teeth are painted, but on mine they aren't painted well at all, very sloppy. White paint on the lips and chin, very messy. Not impressive. The real loser of series 1.

Ogre: Personally, I am neither impressed with the sculpt or the color they chose for his skin. On the former, I can think of 5 or 6 figures Reaper has done for ogres and giants and ettins that are far superior to this guy. On the latter, I think a greener yellow or a browner yellow would have worked far better. He's just the wrong color, and it's so bright it clashes with the other colors on the figure. The beard and hair and fur on the figure are a problem, none have been given a wash, so they appear very cheap. On that count, I have to credit WOTC, who hasn't released a figure this large with unwashed hair or fur in a long time. It's fixable, and as with the skeletons at least the paint is thin enough that hte detail of the sculpt shows through. But....

Minotaur: The clear winner. This guy was MEANT to be the star of series 1, and he is. He's a good sculpt, he's big, he's the most expensive figure in the line (at $6) and he's got the most paint apps. His face, his horns, his belt, his weapons, his armor, it's all given careful attention, with no slop, and crisp paint application in all cases. His skin was given a very faint wash, but the armor was not. The overall effect is quite nice, I think he looks better than many, many WOTC figs, but probably not as good as their best. Still, I think anyone who sees him on the pegs will have to concede he's quite nice for a cheap mini.

All in all these are quite nice. One point I hadn't taken into account before was the bases -- they're all painted black with no highlights but it's nice to have prepainted plastics like these that aren't on flat round bases. One of the chief things I liked about Reaper when I first started collecting was their use of textured bases instead of plastic slottabases -- I occasionally enjoy detailing the base of a figure, but for the most part, THAT'S WHY I HAVE DF. I don't want to be OBLIGATED to detail up an otherwise flat and uninteresting base, plus a base that's so much needlessly larger than the figure itself. I love Reaper's bases, and I'm glad they used them in their prepainted line.

Watch for pics tonight, folks!

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#25679
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
L,
can't wait for your photos. Many thanks for the feedback. would be great to see your pictures of the minis :)

as suspected, its the big figures that will be the ones I go for :)
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#25680
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Er Anyone who wants to let Reaper Know what they want nip into this thread on thier Forums.
It Can't hurt to let them now we want Townsfolk.... Or what ever you want...

www.reapermini.com/forum/index.php?s=f199612ff226769b260147e8c43a4b59&showtopic=28171&st=0&gopid=416634&#entry416634
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#25681
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Well, I'm a LITTLE surprised that people still think the Reaper stuff looks awful after the pics I posted -- while I agree that they aren't AMAZING, I did think they looked far better in person, and I hoped to convey that.

But either everyone just still hates them, or my pics are still pics, and there's no way to get around the fact that they just DO look better in person. Still flawed, but better.

ANYHOO -- that said, I also agree that WOTC has REALLY stepped up their game. Some minis still have far too few paint apps, esp. in sets like War Drums. But when they do it right, they do it RIGHT.

Case in point: November's "Desert of Desolation" Umber Hulk:
www.wizards.com/dnd/images/previews807_Umber.jpg


Yeah, they've improved since Harbinger.

Oh, and this set will also sport a gelatinous cube. Bring it!

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#25682
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Heheehhe I have two Umbers from Harbinger :)


Ugh the other Privew is of a Drow great, another to hate mini, i don't want...
And there is Drizzt and Some other lame figure, ok the Dragon is a no go for $50. While the idea of some minis along with the Collosal... Wait it's only Garg... for $50 i would expect a Col!
I guess the lame Drow and sidkick earns it an extra $20 price tag. So these are now getting into the Range of Rachakm pre-painted Singles ($15 to $10 for the heroes...) so nope ain't going to buy it. They ahd better Stat the crap out of the Lame Drow so all the Fanboys can get one.
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#25683
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
I respectfully Disagree that WoTC is producing better minis now then at the beginning of the run.

I'll try to find some more examples, but quickly for those of you who have a bunch of DDM pick up the recent Night Below Otyugh in one hand and the Giants of Legend Otyugh in the other and see for yourself.
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#25684
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
Yes, yes, yes. True. But Harbinger is a wreck, and Dragoneye isn't much better. They improved RAPIDLY, though, so I agree -- it's not like you have to start collecting at series 5 or 6 to get the great figs. They quickly got good. But they did take SOME time to improve, and certainly Harbinger is full of great ideas, poorly executed.

As for the latest Otyugh -- see, here's the problem. I can argue that WOTC figs are TERRIBLE, by selecting the five worst figures from the most recent waves. I can also argue that they are the greatest things ever, selecting out the best. Either way, it's not representative.

I'm trying to look at the line as a whole -- and, as a whole, that terrible Otyugh from NB is a bad example of what WOTC has been doing. Similarly, the best figures they've done, like Elminster or the Roper, aren't an indication of what you can expect 60 times in each set.

I'll be curious to see other examples you pick, just to see if I disagree about which figures you consider good/bad, but overall, I think it's fair to say that WOTC has improved.

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#25685
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
I agree with your point that there are really good minis they've done over the years and also really bad ones, and neither is exactly representative of the overall quality.

However, lets play this Old vs New game anyway and see what we come up with :D

How about this:

Large Red Dragon (Dragoneye set) vs Large Black Dragon (Unhallowed)

Dire Rat (GoL) vs Diseased Dire Rat (WotDQ)

Behir (GoL) vs Sorcerer on Black Dragon (WotDQ)

Abyssal Eviscerator (Archfineds) vs Mezzoloth (Blood War)
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#25686
Reaper pre-painted minis date announced, and full gallery up! 7 Years, 4 Months ago  
I only hope that we are not dissappointed with the GCube. I have been waiting a long time for this and have even tried to make a few of them myself with instructions on the web. What I ended up with was a bunch of fingerprints.

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