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#22756
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 6 Months ago  
Can you give any info on the qualities of the plastic being used (hard, soft, smelly, not smelly, etc)?
Similar to action figure plastic. Does that help?


Thinking about this, I suppose I can understand what he might be getting at. It could be an indication that these will NOT be like the WOTC figures, done in very soft, pliable plastic. That is a big part of why they are so durable, since they just will NOT break, but it also gives weapons a limpness issue and the whole shebang ends up feeling kinda cheap. Sounds like Reaper's will be closer to the feel of DF minis, though those of course were done in resin. Still, sounds like the Reaper Legends line will be a stiffer plastic, more like an action figure and less like the WOTC products. Makes me pretty happy -- the figures are so light they're as durable as they need to be, sitting clumped up in a bin they shouldn't break. I don't plan on driving a car over them!

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#22757
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 6 Months ago  
That is a big part of why they are so durable, since they just will NOT break,.... I don't plan on driving a car over them!
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I have to say i was shocked, shocked, two weeks ago when i found 5 of my WotC minis Broken!!!!

they were all religated to just two mini types, 3 of the Mezzoloth's from Blood War had there weapons snapped in the same spot, and 2 Vadania's had lost thier upraised arms!

And while it wasn't any of these, after reading about some one doing just that when Harb came out i did try the car thing, and they survived better than the metal or GW plastics.... i was shocked to see that 5 of these (admitidly our of several er Thousand perhaps if you count SW and D&D) were broken!
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#22758
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 6 Months ago  
Not sure if you guys are aware, Rackham will be releasing prepainted Confrontation miniatures in the late summer as well, in the same sales format as AT43.
I pray they have a better paint job as I think the AT43 figs look awful, although I would still buy them over unpainted metal.
Actually I don't think I will ever by non-painted again...
At least the sculpts will be better than AT43!
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#22759
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 6 Months ago  
I have no qualms with the paint jobs on the AT43 or even Mongoose stuff, i balk at the PRICE!
$30 for 6 figures, in some cases.
I was very interested in the AT43 before it came out as another source of SciFi minis, but when i demo-ed the game at Comic Con and saw the prices i was like sorry Wayyy too rich for me, i got cheaper sources that match what i want better.
if i'm going to pay $30 for figures i'd rather get 16 to 14 for that price.

If the fantasy/confontation is in the same price as the rest of their stuff i'll pass on them.
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#22760
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BLAST: In my opinion the AT-43 figures look great, a lot better than any prepainteds that have been released previously. Detail work is excellent, there is some stuff on the larger models that I haven't seen anywhere else. The camouflage on the Fire Toads is suberp, as are all of the little markings. Putting anything from WotC or Wizkids next to the AT-43 figures is an act of cruelty...

Ghenghis: How much have you spent on the Star Wars Miniatures and how many of the figures do you have any actual use for?

The individual prices for the AT-43 figures are higher than anything from WotC or Wizkids, but you know what you get and you only get what you need. After the fiftyeleventh Stormtrooper or Wookie rebel you don't really need any more - which means that you eventually start paying for figures you don't need, want or can use.

The reason why you can have the Star Wars figures at a seemingly lower price than the AT-43 minis, is because the concept of the collectible game forces/goads/seduces you into spending more money overall, which is what keeps prices low if you just look at the _number_ of figures per package divided by the package price, but if you look at it from the viewpoint of _which_ figures you want, you'll find that you'll have to spend the same amount for a full set of a Star Wars expansion as you pay for a full AT-43 army, or actually even more...
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#22761
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Ghenghis: How much have you spent on the Star Wars Miniatures and how many of the figures do you have any actual use for?

The individual prices for the AT-43 figures are higher than anything from WotC or Wizkids, but you know what you get and you only get what you need. After the fiftyeleventh Stormtrooper or Wookie rebel you don't really need any more - which means that you eventually start paying for figures you don't need, want or can use.

The reason why you can have the Star Wars figures at a seemingly lower price than the AT-43 minis, is because the concept of the collectible game forces/goads/seduces you into spending more money overall, which is what keeps prices low if you just look at the _number_ of figures per package divided by the package price, but if you look at it from the viewpoint of _which_ figures you want, you'll find that you'll have to spend the same amount for a full set of a Star Wars expansion as you pay for a full AT-43 army, or actually even more...

I would agree to your point, but only for D&D or Wizkids stuff, but still can't becuase if you go the "_which_ figures you want" to buy route, the figures can come in at far under the $2 range of cost of figs per pack even (in the $0.25 range) to the way over $5, but in those cases , i still don't buy the +$5 figures.
Even if we leave the buy "of _which_ figures you want" out, it doens't work cause to me, they are a different line of products with different wants and needs for me. In D&D long ago i did get sick of having and not using some of the things i have bought randomly. But i don't buy DDM or WK beucase for the Vast majority of purchases in the D&DM line, and almost exclusivly in WK products i buy singles or lots of figures of ones i will use. And in those cases, just like the AT43 stuff, i do know what i am getting, and buy only what i want.

I typically spend only about 25-50 cents a figure on them, which is still cheaper than the $4-5 a figure from Rakham. I can still get the figures i want, and i know what am buying, the argumet of you end up getting stuff you don't want, only goes if you buy boosters or cases, i don't do that in DDM, or WK. Why i don't buy those lines in bulk if i can at all help it at all. I only bought 1 thing from WK ever in bulk and that was to get 1 of there btb figures i wanted.

It has been over 2 years, probably closer to 3 now, that i bought more than a few boosters of a D&D line, i only use the D&DM for one thing the RPG, so buying more than a few bosters is not cost effective becuase of those reasons you mention. I get too many figures i don't want or use, but buying 2 boosters for the whole set, still nets me 16 figures for the same price of things i can use in my RPG, if a want or need a few more i just hit e-bay or a FLGS that sells singles. and i get them for far less than $5 a fig which is what AT$3 is going for.

But for the WotC SW minis, er i haven't gotten a figure, i don't want, need or can use at some point yet. It is totally subjectve on the line. For D&D you are largely right, why i am following the Reaper ones, if they can get me the minis i am interested in, i'll be all over them, but for Star Wars which it the RPG i play, the miniatures game i play, and the setups i love to do on my spare table i haven't gotten overloaded yet, why i said "i got cheaper sources that match what i want better"

I want Sci-fi that looks like it can fit into SW, and while some of the AT43 might fit in, the figs don't at that price, would rather get another stormtrooper, ewok, jawa, wookiee, twi'lek, or tusken, cause yeah i want more, even of the ones i already own loads of. Tthere are litterly, at least for me, some figures i can NEVER have enough of, and well stormtroopers are one of those, so if i had 511 (or is fiftyeleventh 5011, that would more than enough, 11 actually) i would still want a few more stormies, there is a scene i have that could use few hundredd...

I customize many of the "wookiee rebel" type figures into other things, with other weapons, so yeah for me and SW there is no diminishing returns for picking up another booster from a line i have completed or from a new line.

I have used just about all of them at one time or another, in either Squads for tournies, casual play (where i have squads from every faction in the game), or in the RPG, or recently in that Contest. I used EVERY stromtrooper, Republic Clone trooper, battle droid, seperatist, Gungan, Jawa, Sith trooper, Old Republic trooper, and many of the Fringe for that contest. i have to say i wanted a few more of some of them. I play all factions in SWM, i can use any alien in the RPG... so er... yeah

So sorry AT43 is more expensive than i am willing to pay, no matter how you look at it right now, unless they drastically drop the price, cause i can buy (and do) lots for stormies, droids, sith, tusken, dwaves, elves, skeletons, etc at far under the $5 a fig, and i know what i'm getting, It's the same thing for D&D and Star Wars, and other games where you can get singles for <$1. Untill i can get one of those AT$3 figures for under a $2 Rakham won't get me to buy figures from them.

There are cheaper sources out there in the secondary market for figs where you know what you are buying. Example from this weekend need a Tiefling for a D&D game, walked into a LGS and bought one for $0.75. If i had tried to buy booster packs to get that one figure, yes it's incidental price would have been much higher in the cost of other figures, and what i had to spend to get him and them, but i just bought that 1 fig. I'm going to customize it into the BBEG for my current game. That is way cheaper than $4-5 a fig, which is what AT43 goes for. I can get the figs i want cheaper than they sell them, so i don't buy them.
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#22762
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 6 Months ago  
Yes, I can see why you feel that AT-43 is more expensive... My point is still that SWM and D&DM are cheaper only because of the way they are packaged and sold, as they generate loads of sales among the collectors, who may or may not even be playing the game. They are the ones generating the tons of surplus figures for the secondary market. Another factor to consider is the very fact that both Star Wars and D&D have a very high collectable level, which means that anything with that nametag will generate a lot more sales just because.

AT-43 is not made to function like that, most likely resulting in much smaller production runs, with higher prices as a result. The question really boils down to what your particular needs and wants are. I feel perfectly comfortable with AT-43, and will take a good look at the Reaper pre-painteds when they arrive. If I like the figures it is highly likely that I will buy the ones that interest me, regardless of the price. My main concern is my limited hobby time, which I have to spend wisely... Prepainteds are great, and a nice complement to the stuff I do paint, like my Tyranids and Space Orks Speed Freaks.

It was very interesting to read your thorough reasoning behind your particular choices.

PS. "Fifty eleventh" is a translation of a Swedish expression meaning "quite a few", or actually "way too many!" - "Now I've told you fifty eleven times to clean up your room!" :-)
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#22763
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I think part of it is the difference in games we play. I don't do wargames, i'm an RPG player foremost. The only wargame/skirmish i play is the SW minis, and i do that more for the love of the universe/backstory/fluff than anything else.

So there is no "1 army" i collect, for it, i want all the figures, so getting a random assort that could go to RPG, a squad, or a fun diorama (i cut little cause some really aren't little), means i got three uses for what ever falls out of the pack, and i can find some use for it. But that's only with Sci-Fi, and SW. I tend to agree with you, which is why on the D&D and WK side, i don't buy them in boosters/cases if i can at all help it. (had to once for the Lab).

But then i'm cheap for most stuff, and a paint job or figure sculpt won't sway me to get something if i think i can get something as "usefull" for less. And for me i just want 3D reps of stuff, they don't need to have great paint jobs. So i don't like to pay for a "pro-paint" on something like BEvo or AT43, if i like the mini and it does what i want for a decent price i'll buy, if not i won't buy it.

I actually tend to think the "drive" of the Collectable part is really good for the games i don't get into, cuase it gives me really cheap minis, i don't care about the Beholders, or other R in D&D or WK so give me the cheapo C, and mid range U (still mostly cheaper than the non collectable stuff) and i'm happy. I just want figures for my games.
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#22764
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Update.
It's June the month the minis come out, however they are up in the air over there at reaper and don't have a fixed date yet...

But they do have a contest where you can win a full set so go on over to reapermini and enter if you want.
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Cool, thanks Ghenghis! Man, that would be sweet to win that thing!
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I was wondering what was going on--I hadn't heard anything about a release date (then again, I haven't been to the Reaper site in a little while...).
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#22767
Whoa! HUGE news from Reaper! 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Our initial Legendary Encounters shipment loaded onto the boat last week and is in route to us!

We have made arrangements for it to make landfall in Los Angeles and clear customs in Dallas. This means we will have the initial release on our dock in a few weeks. A few weeks that is baring any typhoons, tsunami,pirates, mysterious islands surrounded by fog, Godzilla on the prowl through the pacific or a torpedo from a sub that never got the message the war was over.

We hope you are as excited as we are!

If you have any questions or need additional information please do not hesitate to contact me.

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