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#21526
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
I joined CMON (Cool Mini or Not), and even though I'm proud of my painting, I know full well that I'm just going to get BLASTED over there.

First of all, my painting is, objectively, not as good as some people's. I think it's good, but I fully recognize that it is far from excellent. A lot of people here post pics with much better paint jobs.

Second, I'm terrible with faces -- I don't do eyes, I don't do lips, I leave faces with a minimum of shading and highlighting to suggest a face, but nothing compared to what seems to be common at CMON.

Finally, I tend to keep my bases minimum. With all the DF, I just don't see the point of making elaborate bases, to be honest. But I know that bland basing is a guarantee that you will get a low score at CMON.

So I'm not sure why I joined, I guess. I'm curious to see how I'll do, but I know what to expect, I fear. I figure if I score in the 5-6 range I can count myself very lucky -- poor basing might drop my scores to the 4 range.

Ah well.

L
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#21527
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
I used to paint minis a long time ago, and I was happy to just get a different color on each detail of the sculpt. I didn't shade or wash. My minis weren't the best, but they were crisp and clean and you could definitely tell what you were looking at.

I don't fully understand the idea of making highly detailed bases, unless you are painting your minis for display purposes only. A mini intended for use in games is going to be placed in a variety of settings, and a base that has been devoted to one environment will be out of place in any other -- my "ranger crouching in the tall grass" will look patently ridiculous on the deck of a ship, or in the Den of Evil, or in the middle of a tavern, so why not just leave it at "ranger crouching"?

Paint the way you want to paint. Do the bases how you want to do the bases. And if it isn't good enough for other people, then IMO they can withhold judgement until they've painted that particular miniature themselves.

So there.
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#21528
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
Thanks for the encouragement -- I do agree with you, which is why I deliberately keep bases neutral. If anything, I assume they should match the DF material as closely as possible, though the MBS kinda threw me off in that regard! D'oh!

But I do KINDA value the judgment of the people at CMON -- there are some truly outstanding painters there, and I am curious to hear what they'll have to say about my work. I'm also just bracing myself for what may be exaggerated criticisms based on a simple difference of opinion about what counts as a legitimate criterion. But we'll see...

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#21529
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
That's why they need to make clear bases, so that they fit into any terrain ;)
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#21530
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
OH YEAH, GS!!
Clear bases are definitely the way the Industry should go!
Now, let's have a hands raised count; how many of you think 'the industry' will listen to THAT little suggestion?
Hmmm. . .

Yep, that's what I thought.
Cynical bunch, aren't we?

Well, push-comes-to-shove, we can always make our own. 1/8" plexiglas and cut it 1" square, epoxy or CA to mount the mini after cutting it off the factory base.

And, L;
You paint 'em the way YOU want 'em. If it makes YOU happy, too d*** bad for the critics! If they don't like it, let them paint their own!

See ya!

Jim
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#21531
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
Thanks, guys!

The scores are coming in -- mostly in the 5 range, like I thought, but I have some low 6's. To be honest, I'd be shocked if I got any higher -- that spectacular Reaper water elemental that Kradlo posted -- the one that looked like translucent plastic but was actually painted metal -- only got an 8.5 out of 10, so really you have to expect that the ratings on CMON are outrageously harsh.

L

This is Kradlo's elemental, for those who haven't seen it:
www.coolminiornot.com/index/whatm/Reaper/id/144331

Honestly, have you ever seen ANYTHING painted that well? It's an opaque piece!
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#21532
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
*Blushes*

You're going to make my head swell! And believe me, my wife already gives me grief over my size 7-1/2 melon!

I know that very often the judging is going to be exceedingly critical on CMON. This may be in part due to the extraordinary level of painting demonstrated by a select number of master painters, like Natalya Melnik (aka Alexi-Z), Jennifer Haley, and the like. It can also be based on individual bias, and some people just want to snidely criticize others to compensate for their own shortcomings.

It's interesting to see what now rates as a 5 ("Table top worthy") compared to just a few years ago. The bar has been raised quite high, perhaps disproportionately high.

My advice is to paint your minis to the level that you can, and enjoy what you do. Use the various tutorials, tips, and techniques on the web to improve your skill, and don't be afraid of trying new ideas.

Do NOT be discouraged if your mini won't win a Golden Demon award - if you enjoyed painting it, and it works for your table top, that's what matters.
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#21533
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
L from what I've seen your minis look great (Kradlo too - but I think that certainly goes without saying). Both you guys do way better then me. I'll really work at it and paint a good one now and again (I'm really proud of a few of them - such as an old (1980s?) citidel Balrog that looks great IMO - but still not where you guys are at (perhaps I'll take a pic or two and post). I mostly more mass paint as I tend to field large layouts and sometimes big armies. A few years back I started in November to get ready for my eldests b'day party in March - we were doing a very large Battle of Pelenor fields re-enactment...I painted LoTRs minis 3-4 nights a week - till 2-4am most nights and sometimes all through the night and still didn't get all the ones done I wanted to do...but boy do I have the ultimate (though mediocerly painted...some are OK...most really aren't too bad...but I'm definatly not an "eye" guy...) LoTRs minature armies! (we did Helms deep the year before!)...(he wants to do a Magic cards tournament this year - which is fine by me...but will still be work putting decks together for all the guests...or at least for those who don't have their own...my youngest has already requested that for his b'day (in MAy) he wants to DM a big DF adventure with me! Anyway don't fret L - your work is great! Congrats on the 5 - ain't so bad...
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#21534
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
Wow, I'd love to see that LOTR army -- I had a huge amount of stuff at one point, but it's been packed away for awhile now. Ah well. Did you do the GW stuff, or the Mithril ones? Or another?

In any case, I'm watching my scores -- one of my figures has a 6.8 right now, that makes me happy, even if it only has 5 votes, so it's pretty much guaranteed to go down. ;)

If anyone wants to see these things, btw, I'm "Law" over at CMON, but I think most of you have already seen these guys, anyway -- they're the population of my DF photos! :)

L
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#21535
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
I'd have to second the thought that even the 'second tier' minis painters around here are so great that I can't really imagine ever developing that level of skill. I wonder if some of you would accept DF stuff in trade for painting my minis...hmm....anyway, good work all. I was proud of myself just for managing to use a couple of reaper paints to touch up a chipped DF piece without totally ruining it...
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#21536
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
just checked out the site for the first time...Absolutely AMAZING stuff there....That female demon slays me...and the Wolverine sculpture...unbelievable...WOW!

I'm so happy that there are others out there....painters of mini's... now connected to one another through means of the internet where they can see each others work so easily. In the past I suppos the only way was to travel and enter into some sort of regional contest...but now all you need is a good digital camera and you get immeadiate feedback...that's SUPER!
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#21537
I took the plunge! 7 Years, 7 Months ago  
I've been using CMON for years -- sometimes when I get a basic Reaper figure, in just plain robes, there are just so many ways to do it, I feel like I need a little inspiration to get me started.

Or, actually -- more accurately -- I just want to prevent myself from painting it and then only seeing later "Oh, it would look so cool in purple and grey with copper highlights!" If a color scheme or effect looks really great on CMON, I know I can stash it away for future use -- just like people borrow DF setups from the pics on this forum.

Of course, with DF you can always re-arrange things if you decide you like a setup. With a mini, it's not all that easy to just go back and repaint it. Possible, but not quite something you want to plan on in advance if you can avoid it...

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