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#20033
A Dungeons and Dragons Documentary 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
I agree with Jack attack here. Well Put! And I want to add that Roleplaying AND Miniature tactical combat can co-exist in the same game fluidly...My friends and I Role Play the encounters, like talking to bartenders and barwenches, beggars, city officials, and the occasional talking monster...but when the combat goes down, the mini's usually take the attention and the positions and movement on the board are noted and become tacticaly important. If everyone stays in Character even during miniature combat I feel it doesn't detract from the story or imagination of the game...When I DM I describe what happens on a 'hit" roll to make it more colorful rather than just saying: you hit, and do 6 points damage. In fact, when I first started playing my DM never let us roll damage, just the 20 sided to hit. he would roll secretly and describe what occured after that. With the right group of people (and a fair DM) this is possible, and I think it helps to keep players minds eye in the imagined story rather than on cold numbers...
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#20034
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Well in the one I watched was ok but you did seem a bit tired? Reading now what you were doing at the time and your schedule I have to say yeah, very tired. Glad you got that project done. Do you think these will every be made into that documentary or has it already?
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#20035
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I agree with Otherworld....

1st edition all the way for maximum imagination and role-playing and "specializing" your character THROUGH role-playing...

3.x for that "video game combat/feat tree feel" and the best chance to min/max your character into munchin obilivion
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#20036
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I actually enjoy 3e, but I have barely played it. I haven't had NEARLY as much time to play as I did in the AD&D (i.e. 1e) days.

I think that the company has gone overboard with the feats and skills -- in the sense that every new book seems to be nothing more than a huge list of these things -- but I do like the fact that they exist.

It struck me as just an expansion on the skills that were once the province of thieves. If they can be good at opening locks and hiding in shadows, why can't fighters be good at fighting with a sword in each hand, or fighting on horseback?

I look at the 3e rules as a set of guidelines for giving the game a different flavor, but even in the small amount of gametime I've had, I haven't tried following them to the nth degree.

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#20037
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I think one problem some people have with 3e is that it can become very math-intensive. I hear stories of one action taking up to twenty minutes, due to feats that turn into chain reactions of rolls and rerolls and figuring stats and resolving reactions to the action and so on and so forth.
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#20038
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Well in the one I watched was ok but you did seem a bit tired? Reading now what you were doing at the time and your schedule I have to say yeah, very tired. Glad you got that project done. Do you think these will every be made into that documentary or has it already?
Yes!, I was extremely over-worked and wouldn't have DM'd if not for the filming schedule that day-so yes, parts of the game are in the documentary...since that time I met Mari and she straightened me out quite a bit. I also hired Jeff and he has done a tremendous job of managing DF and taking a heavy load off my back...before him I had (to learn) to wear an assortment of "different hats" running the business while still trying to be creative, oh and hopping all over the world to various conventions...I feel like I am a much changed person now...gone up a few levels...the ones where you get the kool powers (I had been drained several levels by vampires and for a while wasn't sure I would make it) Now I feel like Arthur in Excalibur after drinking from the Grail....

PREPARE FOR BATTLE!!!
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#20039
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Regarding role-playing...

I must be such a freak-a-zoid! I have been gaming with the same guys for over 25 years, as we never "role play" as it is defined now. We aren't mini-maxers, and we love great adventures with good storelines and such -- we just never act out of characters. It is something I really don't have any interest in doing. We make interesting characters and have cool campaigns, but we rarely speak in character. We get more enjoyment playing ourselves in the D&D world than we would playing another persona. I guess that is where my point of view for my True Dungeon event comes from. (www.truedungeon.com)

We also really love the combat strategy and tactics that D&D offers -- and the innumerual options that are allowed with the DM system. I love problem solving, and D&D offers a great outlet for my creative resource management kick. My heroes growing up were Capt. Kirk and Col. Hogan -- two guys that always found a creative way to solve a problem.

So...don't quibble too much about which is the best role-playing version. You are all crazy if you ask me. Hee hee!

PS. Thanks Stefan!
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#20040
A Dungeons and Dragons Documentary 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Jeff;

Kirk and Hogan, eh?
Now I KNOW you're my kind of gamer! Although I think you may be missing some GREAT FUN in not role-playing James T. in a castle/dungeon crawl. Imagine the Great Starship Captain stuck crawling through a sewer with NO phaser, NO communicator, No tricorder, and best of all, NO SPOCK!
And THEN he runs into Bob Hogan, crawling OUT of Stalag 13 on a dead-drop sweep!
Come to think of it, I believe I just came up with a few . . . fascinating twists for my game at Shore Leave in July.

Thanks, Jeff! You're an inspiration to all of us! Whee!!!

See ya!

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#20041
A Dungeons and Dragons Documentary 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Do you call each other by your real names, or by your characters' names? Do you describe the actions you want your characters to perform in third person or in first person? If you've taken the second option on either or both questions, you are still roleplaying.
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#20042
A Dungeons and Dragons Documentary 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hey Jeff,
Yeah, I think you and I are on the same page for roleplaying. We have roleplaying encounters, every now and again, but for the most part, it's a game of tactical choices.

And it did not matter if I was playing Basic, 1st, Merp, Star Trek, or anything else... it's how I play. I don't think the system defines how you game.

I do think miniatures take away this particular conversation....

DM: "OK, so the fireball hits everyone in the room"
Player 3: "I was not in the room"
DM: "Yes you were, the sorcerer cast the spell while everyone was in the room"
Player 3 (Wizard, mostly): "I was in the room, but I told you I left the room to search to skeleton corpse for spell components for my Doom of Akrias spell, which clearly states that one needs the knucklebone from a freshly destroyed skeleton that was destroyed with the aid of a cleric of Akrias, which I am, cause I took one level of cleric just so I could cast that spell, I mean, I don't think the party appreciates that I did that, so I was not in the room.
DM: "What? Nevermind, you did not say you left the room."
Player 3: " Yes I did, why are you always trying to kill my characters! GOD, YOU ARE THE WORST DM EVER! FINE! FINE! I'll just roll my saving throw and die! FINE..... ::Rolls Dice:: Oh..I made my throw, and cause I took levels of the Spell Thief of Damon Prestige class found in this book put out by a small D20 publishing company called MunchkinsRUS that no one has ever heard of and gives me my spells and my thieving abilities, with good saves in reflex and will, and with D8 hit points, but with the penalty of only getting 6 skill points to balance it.... I don't take any damage... nevermind... So who's turn next!? Lets go guys, you hold up the game forever!!! Oh, and Since I am in the room next to the guy, I improptu sneak attack him for 18D6's....

DM: But..you said you were in the...hallway... you said.... ::Sob uncontrollably:: "OH GOLLY!! IF ONLY WE HAD MINIATURES!!!!!!!!"


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#20043
A Dungeons and Dragons Documentary 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Celtchief,

That last post or yours would be a GREAT addition to the "Bad DMs" thread.
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#20044
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Celtchief, Wereweasel;

Robert's last post would be a great addition to Saturday Night Live!
I Loved it! Classic comedy in the true tragic vein (right next to the jugular).

Robert; can I borrow it? If I use it in the same game as Jeff's Colonel Hogan-meets-Captain Kirk sewer crawl, it will make the game at Shore Leave a classic! FYI, Shore Leave was originally a fan-run Star Trek convention; it's still fan-run, but has branched out beyond Trek to other TV & movies. 28 years old and still crazy!

See ya!

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