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#19191
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I can't find the strength to post the pics, since I'm VERY disappointed in this series. They're all too diorama-like, none of them look like they'll work with DF, and the boxed set this time around is more of a bust than a figure. It's a real shame. The designs themselves are quite different, some work and some just don't at all. But there you are. Check out spawn.com for the pics.

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#19192
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
SPOILER ALERT! SPOILER ALERT!

I looked, and I like them a little better, but the point about them being diorama-ish is dead on. Then again, they are designed and marketed as "display models", not gaming acccessories.

Personally, I don't like dragons that are already interacting with people, especially when they have collars or saddles or (especially) chains. (And ALL of this line have people built into the displays!) Creative GMs can contrive circumstances to match their adventures to the scene being depicted, but the scale(s) of the figures rarely match 25mm-28mm, and the scene is static so it can't be changed to match the game action.

The Berserker dragon is collared and chained, held by three or four people. I usually don't like the Berserker dragons anyway, but this might be my least favorite dragon so far.

The Eternal dragon mounted on a post, flying over a forest. This would be fine by me (and it is a decent sculpt) except that it has a rider on its back and a harness and chains controlling it. Again, I don't like the dragons with tack and harness and people -- if they were designed so that the extra bits were optional, I wouldn't mind, but it is practically impossible to remove them without scarring the piece.

The Komodo dragon is perched on a rock, with a girl at its feet and a knight facing off in front of it. It is also chained down by one leg. Arg. Modders can probably get rid of the knight easily and the girl with some effort.

The Sorcerer dragon has THREE crystal orbs, two on the display and one in its claws. It also has a girl held in its tail, but she can probably be removed without too much damage to the dragon. The base looks like it might work stylistically with DF Caverns.

The Water dragon is on a rock jutting up out of the sea, menacing the drowning crew of a smashed Viking longboat. Modders probably won't have too much trouble carving the rock from the water to make the dragon more useful as a game prop. Of all the dragons in Series 5, I like this one the best -- a winged sea serpent.

The (deluxe) Fire dragon is bust-like because it is rising out of lava. The knight in front of it can probably be removed fairly easily, with minimal damage to the rock he's standing on. If you rule that the dragon has great mobility by melting through stone, and that the floor of the cavern seals itself after the dragon has "submerged", then the dragon could pop up in a massive cavern (complex) and make life VERY interesting for a party of adventurers. No scale reference in the photo, but I suspect that this dragon might be comparatively tremendous in size, which is why we are only getting the head and shoulders.

Not the best set McFarlane has produced in his Dragons line, but most of them compare with past figures. While the scenes the dragons are depicted in are quite evocative, they are also very restrictive to someone who wants to use the dragons as gaming accessories.
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#19193
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
The only one I can imagine using in a game is the Fire Dragon boxed set, and that one is restrictive, as the thing has to be submerged the whole time. Still, it looks like it could be the same basic scale as the Col. Red dragon from WOTC, just in much less space -- since the bulk of the dragon's body isn't actually shown...

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#19194
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
But just imagine the players' faces when they realize they can't harvest his scales, or remove his heart (strings), or otherwise loot the body. Yes, confining the dragon to popping its head up out of the floor is restrictive, but so is putting riders on them, and chains, and those silly crystal balls. Again, these are not being marketed as gaming accessories, they are being marketed as artwork in the guise of "collectible toys". McFarlane (Inc.) can't control what we do with them after we've laid down our money, but we can't control what they do when they are designing them.

I actually like the Water dragon for a game prop. I don't know yet whether the base is one piece or two (almost certainly one) or what the scale of the men in the water is (almost certainly larger than 25/28mm), but I can see putting adventurers in one boat and NPCs in another and having the dragon destroy the NPC boat as it appears. And like I said, modders should be able to cut the rock part of the base from the water part of the base without too much trouble.

The one I find most disappointing is the Eternal dragon, because it comes so close to something I really want to see. I mentioned in another post that I'd love a simple dragon in flight, just soaring on the wind rather than fighting. This is that, but with a [*] rider on its back. Which I can't stand.

Here's the link to the photo index, by the way.
www.spawn.com/toys/series.aspx?series=333

What I think I'd really like to see done one day (for gaming purposes) is a set of dragons that are all the same dragon, but in different poses. It could be on all fours, reared up on two legs, in the air upright (as if taking off, landing, or hovering), and in the air horizontal (full flight). That could be released as a series by itself, sold all together as a boxed set, or released as one part of four consecutive series.

Of course, an articulated, bendable, fully posable dragon would be nice, too.
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#19195
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I would have to agree with you guys on all points. I'm a bit disappointed in the dragon set as a whole, but...

...the Water Dragon might work in a huge Cavernous Lake set-up.

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#19196
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I am very curious as to how big the humanoid figures are in this set. Most of them have been massivly to big before, many of these look small. Very small in some cases. Where before McToys was going with trying to make them look smaller (the dragons) all of this line looks like he is trying to show massive creatures, with out making the figures massive.


Like the water Dragon, and the green isn't "bad"
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#19197
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I think these dragons look absolutely fantastic - as have all of the McFrlane sets IMO - particularly considering the price. Sure - they are often not ideal for our gaming purposes...though I have managed to use various ones from the first 3 sets in different game situations - its really not their purpose. They are more just intended to be displays - though I seem to be running out of room for them...and I've yet to order set 4!

Anyway - I do agree concerning the comments about the humans - but what can be done eh - they are what they are. I too noted the scale. Its funny because in many ways these dragons seem huge even for 25-28mm figures...but clearly the implication that McFarlane is portraying here is that these dragons are considerably more massive. I can't wait to see these in person. I think they rock!
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#19198
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I think these dragons look absolutely fantastic - as have all of the McFrlane sets IMO - particularly considering the price. Sure - they are often not ideal for our gaming purposes...though I have managed to use various ones from the first 3 sets in different game situations - its really not their purpose. They are more just intended to be displays - though I seem to be running out of room for them...and I've yet to order set 4!

Anyway - I do agree concerning the comments about the humans - but what can be done eh - they are what they are. I too noted the scale. Its funny because in many ways these dragons seem huge even for 25-28mm figures...but clearly the implication that McFarlane is portraying here is that these dragons are considerably more massive. I can't wait to see these in person. I think they rock!
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#19199
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Sorry to interupt for second guys, but I have to tell someone that my McFarlane sorcerors guild dragon fell on the floor from my shelf, and the darned wing broke off! I am so sad about that. The remains can be seen here:

i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/666Dungeoneer666/IMG_0450.jpg

Now I have to take out my trusty pin vise and repair it. Sorry, just had to whine a bit. :)

Please continue the discussion about the new series.
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#19200
New McFarlane dragons (series 5) due in Jan, pics out now 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
If just one wing broke off you are pretty lucky, i have other McToys totally burst into multiple bits from falls of 3-4 ft.(My favortie is still when the head of this thing, the creature www.spawn.com/toys/horror/monstersplaysets2/seacreatureplayset/images/monstersplaysets2_seacreatureplayset_photo_03_dp.jpg just fell off sitting on a shelf)
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