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#659
D&D minis? 10 Years, 1 Month ago  
You mentioned a previous discussion about using transparencies... I've looked around a bit, but I haven't found it. Could you please direct me to it, as I'm always on the lookout for new ideas to try!
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#660
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Willypold,

I Just Spent Like a Half Hour Trying to Find the Post...<Sigh>... Can not remember which Thread... Basically the Idea is, You Can Buy Transparency stock which will work on Ink Jet or Laser Jet Printers... (Never Bought this stuff My Self, but it is reportedly Exspensive)... Next you Print your Water Effects on like Card Stock or whatever... Then You Take the Transparency And Print the Same Image on it... When You Layer the Two there is purported to be a Nice 3D Textureing... My Guess is that this Can Have Many Applications, from Water, to Lava, to Mysterious Portals... Let me Know if You Decide to Try it...
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#661
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Ok, thanks anyway. I had an almost full box of the transparencies at home already (and yes, they are expensive). I cut up one of them yesterday and just dropped it on to the water section to get the shiny surface. Works pretty well as it is, with my green-painted murky "water" underneath.

With a stalagmite and one of the small stones in the middle of the stream the whole effect is strengthened even further.

I'll let you know about the printed effect as soon as I've tried it. The Woodland Scenics plastic water is a bit expensive anyway (about 25 USD). Now I just wonder what "water effects" the other guys have used...
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#662
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That transparency discussion was in the Cool Photos section, under a thread where I posted pics ripping of Tom's excellent water design in his DF display. I printed some murky water on cardstock, then another slightly different pic on transparency, and it gets a nice reflective shine and also a cool layering effect. The pics don't show it off all that well.

I've also used more professional water effects in my Hirst Arts stuff, posted under the author name "LAW" over at Voidgamers. (www.voidgamers.com) I use a two-part resin called Envirotex Light Pour on High Gloss Finish. You can make great water, pour the stuff out and let it dry for a day, you can tint it however you want, it looks great. In some cases, I top it off with a 5-min epoxy to create ripples and so forth (for water spouts, too, I glue some fishing line in place and coat it with the 5-min epoxy)

But my problem with that technique has always been that you need depth for it, something has to be thick enough to accomodate a well of some sort. I like the thickness of DF pieces, I don't want a whole game board that has to be six inches off the table just to have one well somewhere on the board, you know? I made some fountains and a few times I made elevated Mordheim buildings that had some reservoirs in them. It's tough.

Tom's technique is great for DF -- no sculpting, no cutting, and no putting the whole board three inches higher than it needs to be just for the water. It looks great, and with the stalagmites and such, perfect.

(of course, DF admin -- this doesn't mean we don't want our DF underground lake and river!! )

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#663
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The two sections I've made so far (one 4x4 and one 8x4 inches) are simply 2 mm thick pine plywood, creating a water surface about a cm lower than the top surface of the cavern pieces. I painted the plywood using a large brush to get a sense of varying depths, trying to copy the colour of the various pools on the cavern pieces. Just dropping a sheet of the transparency on top of this is probably the simplest method if you don't have a suitable water image to print. The sections are straight and square, and the next pieces I'll make will be sculpted to get away from the very orderly look. I think the wide water section will improve a lot as a connection between the cave floor and a regular floor piece. I like the way that the sculpting on the cavern pieces continue along the edge - which is why I decided to make the water section the way I did in the first place... :)
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#664
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If You Want to Get some Kewl "Water" Art... You Can get a Few Bits off of the Hero Quest Fan Site Aginsinn.com, and there is a lot of Great Art available on the Dunjinni site... The Advantage to using this Kind of thing is that it is already sort of Geared towards Gaming... Or Maybe someone out there with some Skill as a Graphic Artist in the DF Community would Like to Create and Post for D/L or whatever some Custom Water Art for DF?
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#665
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Ok, let's see how this works...

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#666
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Alright! My first picture for the forum! *Go me!*

What you see here is the 2 mm plywood painted in grass green and Catachan Green with a piece of transparency on top. The bridge is made of wood and stained with brown ink. The columns are made wood dowels and so far primed straight gray - as soon as I've decided on a suitable colour I will make them a little more colourful.

Three of the D&D/SW miniatures have had their bases primed in the same gray as the columns. They need a little more work in order to blend them more thoroughly with the cavern floor. Ok. That's it.

I looked at the "water effects", but what I found looks a little too cartoony for my taste. Anyway, sunny blue waves would look out of place in a cave anyway... ;)
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#667
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I think that looks GREAT. You're right about the water -- it needs a green tint to look right in a dungeon setting. The water I used started out bright blue, I darkened it as much as I could, but it should probably be even greener. Certainly any light it would get in this sorta location would make it even more green, there's no real natural sunlight and sky to make it blue down here.

It was DF that got me back into minis after a 10 year absence, so I've been painting the bases of my figs to match DF since I started painting again. I love Reaper figs partly because their bases, painted properly, REALLY allow for a natural fit with DF stuff. The slottabases that have otherwise taken over the hobby are tougher. I don't have many prepainted fantasy minis, so I don't usually find myself painting over them. The SW minis I'm leaving alone because SW settings are more often black than shiny grey. (when they aren't sand, swamp, or snow, that is!) But with the Death Star as my primary model, painting a perfectly good black base grey seems wrong to me -- despite the fact that it makes them look a little out of place on the DF stuff...)

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#668
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Willypold,

Nicely Done, the Green Gives it a bit of the Stagnate, Algea Breeding Cave Water Look we All Really want anyway...<Grin>... And I Suppose Most would Argue that Even Fast Running Clean Water Underground tends to Look Black as Much as Anything...

I Like the Bridge a lot, it reminds me of the MBA Wharf Set I Have... But You Made Yours so that makes it Better... (Or at Least More Creative),

I Also Dig the Columns, which are Nicely Reminiscent of the Pillars from Which Ever W.A. Set had Pillars in it... (I Use the Pillars From the Mage Knight: Dungeons Accessory Pack (I?), for Caverns because they have Vines and Such Growing on them... With Yours You Could do most anything you wanted, I'll look forward to Seeing Pictures of them "Complete/ Finished"...

Law,

As to Painting the Bases, I know it has Been Discussed a bit around here of Late, And I Keep Looking at my Plastic D&D Figs and Thinking... "Will I Ever try to Sell These?"... The Fact that they are allegedly Collectable, (Though Not why I Purchased them), Keeps me From Messing with them... I THink that they Probably would Look Better over all with Flat Gray instead of "Vader Boots Black"... Which you are right makes them inherantly well Suited to the SW Figs...
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#669
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Thanks for your comments, both of you!

Painting the SW mini was more of a test than anything else. The main problem with the D&D/SW minis is the soft plastic. It takes the paint easily enough, but I'm not too sure about texturing the bases to get som life out of them - but as I haven't tried that yet, I'll reserve my comments for a while.

I got started with GW ages ago, and have been building and painting mostly Tyranids and Space Orks more or less intensely since Space Hulk and GorkaMorka respectively. As you may be able to tell, I'm more of a boardgamer/skirmishgamer.

I got my first taste of DF when my regular game store introduced the stuff about three or four years ago at a time when I had absolutely no money to spend on expensive toys like this.

A couple of weeks ago the evil, evil people at the Science Fiction Bookstore in Stockholm told me that they had started to import the DF range. And right now, I _do_ have the money to spend... The Wicked Additions sets will arrive on Friday and the Cavernous Passages probably a week later...
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#670
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Man, Wicked Additions and the Cavernous Passage sets, those are some of the best stuff. The first piece I ever got was the mermaid fountain, I saw a bunch of stuff on display, and my wife saw the pain in my face and bought me the fountain so I wouldn't have to walk away empty handed.

And it provided me about a week of self-restraint! ;)

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