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#4762
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
First off, as an aside, a small request to the DF people: I think the forum categories could be slightly cleaned up. Some are clearly moot now, like previews for product that's out, and the two main categories seem to be "Feedback" and "Official news," which leaves a lot out. There's also no "Off Topic" category, for discussing things like (ahem) non-DF products that work well in a DF display. As I'm sure you've noticed, a lot of us like to compare notes on what looks good in our DF dungeons, and of course being non-DF products they don't really "fit" into the categories currently listed.

ANYhoo, so no pics yet, but here's a brief account of the Platformer set I recently picked up. It was $12, a small set, comes with a bunch of stuff that combines to make various sorts of layered platforms and, essentially, futuristic scaffolding. It's all on sprues, you clip out and assemble, and you don't HAVE to paint them if you don't want, but more on that later.

The set comes with a bunch of basic squares and basic rectangles that can be combined in any number of ways -- put them next to each other to make broad floor spaces, or at right angles to make walls and ceilings or walls and floors, etc. There are also some support beams of various heights (fixed heights, for the most part, though elements are included to make higher pieces and you could always take out some clippers to make shorter ones) and two ramps (well, four, but they are so thin you have to combine them to make a total of two useable ramps) Finally, there are some decorative elements, like blast sheilds and railings.

So, basically, you come up with whatever design you want, putting floors together, stacking them either on girders or on walls, connecting them with ramps, lining them with walls or railings. The $12 set doesn't provide enough for ENDLESS options, but it does allow for three levels with enough room for various figures on each level.

The plastic is molded in grey, so if you HATE the idea of painting, the stuff will look decent. Still, I gave it a quick spray of black primer and drybrushed some silver so it works a bit better and fits in more with DF's Sci-fi pieces.

OK, the bad first, since I have to admit, that's what struck me.

1) The connections are designed to be easy, which means they aren't very sturdy. Walls and support beams are a little loose, so getting sharp right angles and making sure the legs don't buckle is a task. It always feels a tad unsteady. Of course, gluing things in place would make sure they stayed solid, but it would prevent re-designing it at all, which is a real drawback.

2) The stuff takes FOREVER to click together. Each piece has two sides which have to be connected, and there are TONS of connectors of various kinds. I got the SMALL set and it got tiring. There is no way to put a large layout of this stuff together without going nuts assembling the basic elements first.

3) It's very plastic-y. We're all used to the level of quality in DF, and this is nothing like that. Much cheaper. The details are nice, but they don't look nearly as good as DF. This stuff will make some nice flourishes and spice up a DF display, but without a lot of custom work it isn't ever going to look as good as DF.

OK, that out of the way, the good:

1) The ramps are very cool.

2) The design makes it possible to add higher levels to DF and open up things like sci-fi construction, or landing pads, or landing bay type stuff. As a fan of 3-D setups, with lots of changes in level, this stuff is fun to add to DF.

3) The modularity is clever. You can, for example, just put three or four squares together and make something that looks just like a cargo box or something, or storage lockers for DF. You can make just extra little rooms, or whatever. There's a lot of room for inventiveness here. Plus, you can use the ramps on their own in a DF display without paying attention to the rest of the Platformer stuff at all (though you will have to reckon with the little "click-in" tabs the ramps use to connect to the rest of the stuff)

Overall, I'm happy with what I have, but at the same time I wouldn't call this a perfect product. The initial pictures on the box look really impressive, but once you get started you realize two things: 1) It won't really look like that, since getting straight angles requires gluing and you don't want to glue, and 2) My eyes, at least, tended to ignore some of the weaker elements in the picture, until I'd started working on my own. Two kinds of floors/walls and some girders aren't really enough to make things look perfect. It's nice, but I wouldn't rave about it.

Still, given how little there is out there for Sci-fi terrain, this stuff is quite nice. It's cheap, it looks decent, and it is flexible. I'd recommend that any sci-fi gamer get at least one set, though I wonder whether anyone is going to love it enough to want five or six of them.

Pics on the way!
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#4763
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Hey L, thanks for the Platformer review. I've seen these online a few different places and was wondering what they were like. Sounds like they might be good as wargamming terrain such as for Warhammer 40k but might be a little flimsy for frequent use/abuse when doing role playing games.

Look forward to seeing the pictures.
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#4764
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  

2) The stuff takes FOREVER to click together. Each piece has two sides which have to be connected, and there are TONS of connectors of various kinds. I got the SMALL set and it got tiring. There is no way to put a large layout of this stuff together without going nuts assembling the basic elements first.


You ain't kidding, i got the two Big sets, becuase someone somewhere else mentioned you couldn't do much with the Small sets, so i got a Large Paltformer and Hex... I got them in the Mail yesterday morning looked at them and was like can't wait to get home and start working on makeing set ups..... With out opening the indivuals boxes, just the big box from the War Store...

Well got home, opened the boxes, and the like 15 spure sheets that came out where Mind boogling... So i read through the directions and went on Vassal around 8:00 and started to use a hobby knife to cut these out and assemble all of the Platformer pieces while i waited for people to show up and play SW minis... at around 9:30 when i had just assembled three full piece sets (the Big Rectangle pieces, and the Square ones and the T1 connectors) and still no one on Vassal, i was Soooooooo freaken tried of cutting things out, getting rid of the flashing and then snapping them together, i finished the ones i was working on grabbed a beer and put everything back into the box to work on later... I think i may end up doing like three pieces a night, (three whole sets of an item) which should take oh by maybe friday i will get everything done...

It looks like it could be fun, once everything is togheter.... getting to that point will take Yoinks of time. The Hex at least seems like there are less pieced to put together, but all the little joints.... Ekk....



It was the general lack of Sci-Fi scenery/Terrain that got me interested in it. Some of it looked really cool, i can see a Starship troopers stlye set up, and some thing from a Dark Horse SW comic on Amannin being done with these... when i get them together i hope they are cool... So far you get a LOT of stuff in the large.... perhaps too much.
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#4765
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Ugh finally got the Platformer all cut out... got to start on Hex..
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#4766
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I cut the @#$#@ out of my thumbs putting it all together...

The thing is, I'm almost tempted to glue it together, just because it will be sturdier, and I can paint it more easily that way. But I know I want to be able to make at least two or three arrangements, not just one.

Hmmm...
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#4767
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Any website for this stuff?
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#4768
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I think there is, but it's in Russian. From some stuff i read at the Miniatures page, it was origanly a russian product, or such, that is now being made (liscenced?) by a company here in the US. Do a search for RoboGear. The War Store has some pictures, i put a little thing together ladt night and it'a not bad. plan on doing a bigger one to night.. the big set to so long to do i really didn't want to stay up much later.
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#4769
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
My box says "Pegasus Hobbies" on it, so you could check their site (www.pegasushobbies.com)

I'm pretty sure that's the first place I saw pics of this stuff (their terrain is pretty cool, if a little expensive)

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#4770
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I Was Just Going to say that this looks very similar to something I saw on the FLGS shelf from Pegasus recently... They only had one maybe a small Platform? I almost purchased it, but had X-mas shopping to do at the Time... Some One Post Some Pics? I'd love to see how it looks with the Sci-Fi stuff...
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#4771
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
All i know is that little Rubix cube like T thingy on the bottom of the box, and i think instructions is trade marked by a Russian company, and the english in the directions has some odd translation glitchs, odd phrasing and tenses on a few things.

press hardly

is one i remember that symbol is from Technolog a russian company www.tehnolog.ru/company.php?t=14&lang=1

The Terrain Like Hex and Platformer show up in the Products page under building sets, www.tehnolog.ru/games.php?lang=1

From what i understand IMEX is importing or liscenced to make them in the US, not sure which. I know a number of places sell them maybe Pegasus is one.
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#4772
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Wow... Never Even heard of these folks till now... They seem to be an Analog to GW... I Think that since these sets are apparently fairly inexpensive, it might be worth checking out for parts if nothing else, Great Girders, Ladders, Ramps, Hatches etc... And from the Second Link it appears that there are a few other "Construction" sets as well... Not sure I like the look of the Minis, or the Fantasy Stuff, and the Vehicles have an odd "Cartoon" quality to them, but even those could provide some useful Nernies... I'll have to keep my eyes on these... Oh... And for those of you who Dig Battle Tech and the Like, Check out the "SkyTech" section from the above link, it looks like those Hex tiles could be useful for easy terrain...
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#4773
Slightly OT: Platformer sci-fi product 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thanks for the links! Looks like fun stuff, with emphasis on _fun_! :D
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