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#30580
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
This is based off of another topic I just posted in but got me a bit concerned about financially investing in DF. It seems there are a variety of opinions on what sets to buy, and just how much is necessary to be content with. I've heard a few people say just having 2-3 different sets is enough to get by with happily, while other people indirectly imply that you need multiple copies of a lot of different sets, and a large variety to truly be content.

This brings up financial concerns for me...I would like to invest in DF stuff, maybe anywhere from 2-3 sets. However, I get the impression from a large variety of people that it isn't going to be satisfying enough with just a couple of sets. I can allow myself to spend maybe a couple hundred $$$ on this stuff, but I get the feeling like there are lots of people plopping down thousands and thousands of $$$ on DF merchandise like it was nothing.

So, my question....how much do you spend on DF products in a year?

A follow up question - if I only feel like I want to spend $200-300 on DF sets, will they be worth it if I don't intend to really spend much more down the road and just limit myself to the 2-3 sets I would initially invest in?
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#30581
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
How much Master Maze will satisfy you? Think of it as a delightful addiction. You can certainly enjoy having a few sets, and get great use out of them.

Will that be enough to satisfy you forever? That's really up to you. But you'll probably want to expand you collection down the road. You can do it a little at a time, or dive in, depending on your funds and your gaming style.

Think of Dwarven Forge sets as an investment that will last you a lifetime. You can pass them down to your grandchildren.

And heck, you'd probably just use the money for something foolish like mortgage or food.

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#30582
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Gaming is my only real hobby (since I gave up zymurgy) so I don't feel bad spending money on it. Also, if you buy a few sets and then don't like them, you can always sell them on e-bay for almost exactly (and, baffling enough, sometimes more) than you paid for them.

However, I'm pretty sure once you get some sets you'll LOVE them, and as I said in another post, you can have many, many happy gaming sessions with just a few sets.
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#30583
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
That really is totally subjective.

You spend what you want on something ... to the point where you feel you've met your maximum allowance and that something passes the point of value for you.

If you want more sets, you'll get more sets. If you're content having a small basic selection, that's great, too. It all depends on how you game and, ultimately, your personality ...

Are you the golfer who NEEDS the latest club technology every year? Are you the skier that MUST HAVE the newest sticks every season? Are you the hobbiest that HAS to have EVERY miniature in a set? Every rules re-write?

If you feel you will be content with a few sets, you probably will be. That's not to say that you may not decide to invest in more in the future, it all depends on you and where you choose to take your collection.

Early on, I found a few sets of the basic dungeon ideal (small bank accont and small apartment) and I was able to enhance them and broaden their use with misc terrain items from various sources (Grendel, Armorcast, etc). I could have everything from torture chamber to tavern set-ups with a few sets.
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#30584
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
As someone who has spent a decent bit of money on this, i don't "Need" really any more than 2-3 sets, i just wanted to set up something larger.

For both myself and the players, one of each set of the Fantasy was more more than enough (heck at this point we don't even have 1 each of the fantasy as more has come out since the person who buys fantasy stopped buying it in our group) but it was a very nice amount to set up many of the encounters and areas that we used for our weekly D&D games.

It was far more intersting and visually pleasing view of the enounter area than the pens on chessex that was used so often that was done that i ended up buying more for my games. And i did it over a number of years as well. I have been gaming since 1980 and since 2000 have always wanted a better play area, that looked cool. DF filled a lot of that when they came out with the Sci-Fi line.

For the sugesstions everyone is giving on "where to start" it's a good list of varried sets to maximize the admititdly not small amount of money the stuff costs, so you can decide what you want to get or not, these are the "ideal" lists for a very varried amount of sets. I don't own any of the classic dungeon, and really wanted to support the Sci-Fi so i have bought into those, but looking at the set ups if it ever (and likely won't) but Dungeons i know the few i would go for would be to maximize the sets and variablity with the money i spent. I want big Sci-Fi so i buy lots, i don't need them, i just want them.
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#30585
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
I replied in another post but wanted to reply here also. I started with 3 sets and to be honest could have use just the one R&P set. For the first few years I would setup encounters 1 room and passage at a time sometimes 2 rooms. The point of it is that I had fun with my investment. I do budget every year for DF and I adhere to that budget for the most part. Some years more, some less. It varies but those are for sets I "want" not need. I hope my comments help and welcome to the "machine"

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#30586
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
As one of the "MAN, I GOTTA HAVE JUST ONE MORE SET!" brigade, I plead the Fifth!

I will say this, however; IF you find that you like DF, find LOTS of storage space, and either get someone who can keep you DISCIPLINED when you backslide, or get out of gaming RIGHT NOW - unless you're independently wealthy.
Because regardless of whether Jeff and Stefan keep DF prices where they are, raise them, or drop them through the floor, you're gonna spend yourself BROKE! And you'll need the space.
I got started around 1998, and by now, I have almost 40 sets - and that's after going to almost zero buying for a couple of years, just getting minimum maintenance level purchases to keep my habit alive, as it were! There for a while, I was buying 5-6 sets at a time! Multiple times a year! Plus loose pieces, custom castings to cut up, and other stuff.

It's addictive, man; watch out.
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#30587
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
But it's such a sweeeeet addiction!

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#30588
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Whoops i think my last response was supposed to go in a different thread...

As to how much per year, totally depends on what is being released.
I don't do Classic Dungeon, so i don't buy it at all, i do like Caverns, and DoE, i bougth a few MBS, and i like them, but i will likely be a smaller scale purchase. I will get newer sets, but just 2 sets of expansions on it, and no more (and i think that holds true for what i have bought so far with MBS). I have the core sets i like, Sci-Fi, Caverns, and Lesser DoE. I buy in that order, I so far have only really bought "new" Sets from anything else, and only really purchase more of the older sets every now and then. Like i splurged for a few more of the Sci Fi Floors some time back, and a few of the base rooms, and at another time a the one with the curved walls becuase i wanted a few more to expand on what i had and honestly so i could leave a set of each at home most of my sets are where we game).

I mainly by new sets with the occasional older to widen the ability to make setups.
You can just run with set or two but you will be limited by the amount you can set up at any one time, i want more expansive areas so the players can move back and forth or have things come into the set up at x and move to y with reall distances etc.
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#30589
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Hello,

i'm also one of those really addicted persons...

it started as i found one cavern set on a convention i attended.
It was a lot of fun with this one set for a whole year.

The next year i added 5 sets (1 cave and 4 dungeon)

I had enough to set up all i want to fights in RPGs.

Over the following 2 years i bought one of each set just to have
all the variety of pieces.

For me it's enough to have one of each set with the exeptions being
the river, lake and Caven sets of which i own 2 each.

for the most part have fun
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#30590
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
Ok it's my turn to answer you ...mmm....
I only tried to get one set of each for years & years and this is hard to get.
DF quality is amazing but the price is the main problem because it comes with too high postage & package fees +continous higher douane taxes each year (in France from 96€ to 150€ for each package !!) so if you have 200/300$ then try to find what you want on DF store or at lower cost.

I did a good bargain in yahoo asia (hehe) but also on ebay europe.
I only bought to DF the missing sets but the 3 medieval sets & the chasm are still missing here.
I use to buy each 2 years due to the cost it represents.
It's a hobby and you will be proud to show your collection even if you don't use a lot.
Your gamestyle will tell you what you need more (may be several times the same set ?) but I like to thing 1 of each is enough ^^.
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#30591
How much DF in a year? 6 Years, 1 Month ago  
This is based off of another topic I just posted in but got me a bit concerned about financially investing in DF. It seems there are a variety of opinions on what sets to buy, and just how much is necessary to be content with. I've heard a few people say just having 2-3 different sets is enough to get by with happily, while other people indirectly imply that you need multiple copies of a lot of different sets, and a large variety to truly be content.

This brings up financial concerns for me...I would like to invest in DF stuff, maybe anywhere from 2-3 sets. However, I get the impression from a large variety of people that it isn't going to be satisfying enough with just a couple of sets. I can allow myself to spend maybe a couple hundred $$$ on this stuff, but I get the feeling like there are lots of people plopping down thousands and thousands of $$$ on DF merchandise like it was nothing.

So, my question....how much do you spend on DF products in a year?

A follow up question - if I only feel like I want to spend $200-300 on DF sets, will they be worth it if I don't intend to really spend much more down the road and just limit myself to the 2-3 sets I would initially invest in?

I was fortunate on two counts with DF:

First, I discovered it very early on when there were relatively few sets available. This allowed me to purchase most (if not all?) of the early releases, and then, once caught up, I was able to just buy one or two sets as the new ones came out. Also, the average set at that time was between $60-80. So as new stuff came out it was a bit easier to snag right away.

Second, in DF's previous incarnation, all sets were sold through distributers. This meant that I could purchase DF without postage! It also meant that it was possible to find small stores, venders at conventions, and so on who would sometimes sell DF on sale. Especially if they were clearing stock.

These two factors allowed me to grow my collection at a more accelerated rate than I am currently able to afford. In other words, once DF went to online sales [through their site] my annual purchases did decline.

I consider myself to be somewhat behind in some regards, since I cannot afford more than 3-4 sets a year these days--max. Still, take heart. There is a lot that you can do with just a few sets, and if you use other terrain too, then the accessories in particular can be very useful and are a bit cheaper.

Also, if you keep up with new releases on the web-site and in these forums, you will find that DF often offers discounts on pre-orders--pretty much always these days actually--and it is also not uncommon for DF to offer older sets on sale. The Sci-Fi Beta for example--which is a great set--has been on sale for quite some time.

So there are some strategic ways of buying DF. Not the least of which is through the secondary market as has been discussed previously.

Regardless, I make an effort to purchase at least a few items here and there to make sure that DF is doing the business it needs to in order to keep going. So even if you feel that $200 a year is your limit, I think that you can probably stretch it pretty far, and you will likely be very happy with whatever you purchase. Can you build bigger, more complex sets if you are spending $1500 + per year? Yes, yes you will, but not necessarily "Better." The value of DF in gaming is really a matter of how it is used. I have read more than one article--on these boards and elsewhere--in which folks describe only using the DF for "Special" encounters, or lay things out room by room, and so on. So there are ways of getting around having to have a huge collection.

Course the more you collect the more you will want because this stuff is both beautiful and highly functional. Not to mention the amazing community that you will be interacting with, and the very imporessive and personalized customer service that DF has to offer.

DF is pricey in a way, but it is also well worth the investment on so many levels. It really comes down to deciding what you are comfortable with spending. But, you KNOW you'll want more in the long run...*Smirk*...

maj!
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