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#22591
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I just got finished unpacking my DF collection after moving. This stuff got moved across the country, unloaded into my basement, then put into storage, then back into the basement before getting unpacked, and every single piece survived unscathed. And I didn't even pack them that carefully (I certainly don't still have all the original boxes). I wish I could say the same for the stuff I had made with HA, or all my miniatures. Lots of casualties there.

DF rules.

This is my first post here, but anyone that's been to my website knows I'm a big DF fan and use Master Maze in all my games. I've got a ton of it (and that might not actually be too much of an exaggeration), and I love it, love it, love it. Just ordered the new sets coming in April.

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#22592
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
AWESOME!

Glad to hear you're a fan and that your collection survived your move.

How about a special Dwarven Forge Map template pdf for some of the Ptolus dungeons?

;)
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#22593
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I've moved more times than I care to think about, and my Master Maze has made it through it all without damage. Stefan built it to last (thank you!), and the foam-lined boxes give it extra protection.

I'm planning to stay in this house until I die, which shouldn't be too soon.

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#22594
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I have heard you can use epoxy to repair Master Maze pieces but I have yet to try it. I have never broken a piece. This product will last generations.
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#22595
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
The ONE time I actually BROKE a Master Maze piece (it was a MM corner, I think; I actually stepped on it, IIRC!), I was able to glue the piece back on with CA, and it NEVER came off!
Now, it's true I use almost exclusively Zap-A-Gap, which is a thick, slow-set CA, but still, I can bounce that piece off the floor and it doesn't break off again! Okay, okay, yes it IS a carpeted floor, but even so...

Master Maze, DF; no wonder the Storefront says it's made with Polystone; maybe it should say PolyROCK! PolySTEEL.

Great stuff, Stefan!

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#22596
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I've had to fix two pieces....both of which I dropped 4 or so feet. I used superglue and I doubt I could find the pieces that I repaired out of the collection...it's fixed up so nicely I couldn;t make out the break!
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#22597
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
Tell me about it!

I moved two years ago, and after the move almost ALL my HA stuff got damaged (and I haven't had the energy to go back and make more since, esp. knowing that I'll be moving again eventually). A lot of minis got damaged, too.

The DF -- no problems.


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#22598
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I've had two pieces break, one after being dropped on concrete, the other in the mail. Both fixed up just fine with just super glue. I think due credit should go to the paint as well as the resin - that stuff is tough! If you've done any conversions, or temporarily glued any pieces together, you know that the paint does not come off; it might just as well be part of the resin.
I don't keep all of the original boxes, because of space considerations - my storage system involves stacking the pieces against each other in large rubbermaid containers, not a gentle system to be sure. But the pieces hold up fine, and I have yet to see chipping or other damage. That said, the original packaging is in itself incredibly high quality, as we all surely know... I can't imagine what a box would have to go through to damage its contents. Highest marks to Stefan and Jeff and the gang - this is as much quality as a product can deliver, in my humble opinion.

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#22599
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
Thanks guys for your high praise!!

It was very important to me to make the pieces solid, as I envisioned LOTS of (not so gentle) use...
Shortly after our first batch I realized we had a problem...actually we had a few problems..(remember the bow ties incident anyone?) Anyway, after a few months of hauling our demo sets all over the world I realized that they can indeed chip on the edges or corners...this would show as little white specks on the pieces and so i knew we had to improve them...the solution was actually pretty easy...I decided to cast everything in a stone color rather than white so even if they chip it's really not noticable...
I wish we could do the same thing with metal but If I could solve that (at low cost), I'd be a millionaire...

Actually, because metal doesn't hold paint well at all, I decided to make our lizard men and other figures in Resin as well...yes, they are more delicate for sure, I wouldn't recommend stepping on them...but they hold the paint much, much better...To make them a little stronger we actually go through the trouble of inserting little metal wires inside some thinner areas during casting to reinforce them. We don't highlight this extra work because frankly, the factory isn't always diligent about EVERY single protuding arm or spear...it's sort of a bonus that we don't talk about...we do that on some of the other mastermaze pieces as well.

Anyway, Thanks again everyone, your comments are much appreciated!

Good Gaming!
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#22600
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
Hello All,

WoW 2 legends on the same thread!!! By the way I have moved 8 times in 9 years and the last 7 moves have been with MM sets. Unlike some of you I have maintained teh original boxes and we now have the "PALLET of DOOM" as my wife calls it. We pile the 40 or so boxes and 2 boxes of odds and sods and put them on a 4 x 4 pallet about 8 ft high. We then wrap teh platic wrap moving stuff around it to strengthen it. It then gets transported back to teh next basement. I also run a game every 3 weeks and usually have to travel. I remove all the pieces that I will need and put them into a super secret tub with news paper liner. I have only broke 1 piece in all these years and it was becuase I was holding a box upside down and one piece fell out. I sanded the 2 pieces down and now I have a shifting wall piece for my room sets. Secret compartment etc. However several of my reaper miniatures have not been so well lucky. GREAT Product Stefan!!

Jeff, Stefan, I would suggest to make sure that you guys are making money so that my habit will remain safe for a long time to come. My son and I (6 years old) setup a dungeon every Saturday morning and go through the dungeon with a couple of miniatures. We roll D6 and move. When we run into the dragons we roll our d20 until the monster is dead. (total of 20 points on the d20 usually 3 or 4 rolls) We then start to move again with the d6. The one who gets to the end quicker wins. So for all of you that have a little one keep this in mind. This is a lot of fun and we enjoy it.

Take care.
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#22601
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
Holy Cow!

Didn't catch that the first time...Monte Cook!

I am indeed honored for the kind post (and plug) from a true legend of Gaming... Thank you Sir!

see you at Gen Con!


WooHoo!
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#22602
Master Maze = Super Sturdy! 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
I can really attest to the sturdiness of DW stuff. I bought a group of 10 sets at once from a guy on ebay as a lot. What he failed to mention (and my bad for not asking) was that 9 of the sets didn't have boxes. While I got one diagonal set NIB, the other 9 sets came loose in 2 large (24"x18"x16") boxes with peanuts and some newspaper...

1 broken 4 way passage
1 broken 4 way narrow intersection
1 broken corridor piece

All were fixed with glue and pretty much appear as new. I was stunned!!!

It's also great to hear how sturdy DF is for moves. I'm dreading the inevitable move....

PS: If anyone doesn't want their boxes I need ones for R&P, NP, SP, Ogre's...... :)
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