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#12652
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hi folks,

My kids and I play DND. However, my kids are getting tired of the battle mat so I decided to try a DF. I just ordered a Fantasy Starter Set and a Room and Passage Set. There are not a lot of sets available at this time, so I just ordered what seem to be decent sets for us to try out.

For fantasy role players, what do you think should be our next set? We mostly do dungeon/cave crawls. Budget is $200.

Thanks much!

Pat
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#12653
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Look in the threads "Thinking about buying some of this stuff..." www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=1022
and
"Tips for a college student." www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=977
and
"What should a newbie get first? Second? Third? Et cetera..." www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=758

Same types of question, and lots of good answers in there.

and Welcome to DF.
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#12654
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
For fantasy role players, what do you think should be our next set? We mostly do dungeon/cave crawls. Budget is $200.
Well, GS said all that needs to be said -- BUT I would say that if you do cave crawls and have $200 to spend, the Cavern set is ideal.

True, it can "only" make caverns -- but the pieces are so large, the set so huge, it just gives you a LOT of options for your dollar. A great buy. You'll be able to use your regular dungeon pieces with it, and add to them both with time. I think it would be a really solid way to go --

but, by all means, check out the threads GS pointed you to.

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#12655
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
A second Room and Passage set. That's my recommendation.
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#12656
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
See if your local gaming retailer carries individual pieces, or check out the DF link www.dwarvenforge.com/1/home.php?cat=260 . Sometimes you can find pieces that greatly enhance your particular layouts for fairly low cost. They are often cheap enough that they make decent stocking stuffers.

Also, the Wicked Additions sets have pieces that can add a lot of flavor to your dungeon.
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#12657
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Thanks guys -- I will surely browse the links.

In the meantime, I talked to Jeff and changed my order to 2x Fantasy Room and Passage sets and 1x Medieval furniture set (ditching the fantasy starter for now). I think I have enough pieces for a decent dungeon crawl with the kids. I will revisit my needs after playing a few times and when more stuff becomes available in June. My wallet is already starting to hurt; these things look beautiful in pictures (haven't seen one in real life) and the kids are already excited.

---Pat
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#12658
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Welcome Pat!

Great to have you with us:)
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#12659
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Well, as someone who has collected DF on a budget for several years, I can honestly say the very best way to get the most for your money is with single pieces. www.dwarvenforge.com/1/home.php?cat=260 particularly the single room pieces here: www.dwarvenforge.com/1/home.php?cat=267

The biggest problem with buying sets that I've found is that I have more than enough hallways, and never enough rooms. First things first - get yourself 2 packs of 2 longwalls - $10 a pop. Get the 6x6 floor - $8. Throw in the 4 corners (trust me, you can never have enough corners) $8 more. Now you have yourself a 50'x50' room for $36. Get two of these (granted, there aren't doors if you assemble this as a room, but that's not the point...point is for $72 you've easily added TONS of utility to your room creation.)

Now, from the advanced builder pieces get a set of 4 half corners and 4 half walls - $8 each for a total of $16. These come in AMAZINGLY handy for creating centered doors, small rooms and small 5' doorways. So now you've spent $88. You can now A) Go hog wild with the singles, hand picking pieces that strike your fancy (but think more corners and more floor - with a few more passage pieces, particularly the curved pieces - they're awesome and add a nice look from the standard right angles of most pieces) or B) pick out a set that really excites you. You can't go wrong with another Room and Passage set - or even treat yourself to the beauty of the Den of Evil...although it is a dressed up room and passage set, so if number of pieces exceeds presentation at this point, stick with a R&P and buy a few more single pieces.

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the Cavern sets, but the cost versus sheer utility at this stage in your collecting puts it to the back burner. With only the two sets you have now, some singles and a cavern set, you're going to feel more constrained than if you choose pieces that perfectly mesh with the ones you have now and add that later (but do add it later - it's an amazing set.)
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#12660
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Well, as someone who has collected DF on a budget for several years, I can honestly say the very best way to get the most for your money is with single pieces. www.dwarvenforge.com/1/home.php?cat=260 particularly the single room pieces here: www.dwarvenforge.com/1/home.php?cat=267

The biggest problem with buying sets that I've found is that I have more than enough hallways, and never enough rooms. First things first - get yourself 2 packs of 2 longwalls - $10 a pop. Get the 6x6 floor - $8. Throw in the 4 corners (trust me, you can never have enough corners) $8 more. Now you have yourself a 50'x50' room for $36. Get two of these (granted, there aren't doors if you assemble this as a room, but that's not the point...point is for $72 you've easily added TONS of utility to your room creation.)

Now, from the advanced builder pieces get a set of 4 half corners and 4 half walls - $8 each for a total of $16. These come in AMAZINGLY handy for creating centered doors, small rooms and small 5' doorways. So now you've spent $88. You can now A) Go hog wild with the singles, hand picking pieces that strike your fancy (but think more corners and more floor - with a few more passage pieces, particularly the curved pieces - they're awesome and add a nice look from the standard right angles of most pieces) or B) pick out a set that really excites you. You can't go wrong with another Room and Passage set - or even treat yourself to the beauty of the Den of Evil...although it is a dressed up room and passage set, so if number of pieces exceeds presentation at this point, stick with a R&P and buy a few more single pieces.

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the Cavern sets, but the cost versus sheer utility at this stage in your collecting puts it to the back burner. With only the two sets you have now, some singles and a cavern set, you're going to feel more constrained than if you choose pieces that perfectly mesh with the ones you have now and add that later (but do add it later - it's an amazing set.)

That is a great advice. I mostly need rooms, so will get 2 sets of the 6x6 floors etc when they become available. (Why is it that most stuff is unavailable?) Plus another set.
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#12661
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
That is a great advice. I mostly need rooms, so will get 2 sets of the 6x6 floors etc when they become available. (Why is it that most stuff is unavailable?) Plus another set.
Singles can be very handy, i got a few of the basic sets then picked up a bunch of singles of the things i really wanted to fill in what i felt i needed with out buying other stuff i didn't want.

The reason that a lot of stuff is unavailable is becuase DF is a small company that really depends on the support of it's customers. With limited working capital they were in a bit of a pinch some time back it seems with funds, they have since switched to a different business model (selling direct instead of through Game stores and other retailers) to keep more of the capital comming in and giving the customers a break on the price. They have also expanded the line of products which ate up a lot of working funds (the Sci-fi line is fairly new compaired to the other DF products and has gotten a decent bit of the latest sets, but as some one who was brought into the DF family by the Sci-fi line. I wouldn't be here with out it, but i will admit it has taken a bunch of the resources, but i hope it is paying off for them and as long is DF seems commited to support the Sci-fi i can wait a bit while the restock and keep the staple of Fantasy in, becuase even i with Sci-fi use Fantasy for some stuff, and the caves works very well for sci-fi). So while the money to make some of the older sets was tied up they couldn't restock some of the older, but with the new business model of direct sales, as well as taking pre-orders for certain sets they can get an immediate cash influx to make the new sets, as well as the old and keep more stock.
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Some RPG and mini stats including the Exodus and AAT (along with good source of a Mini scale version of the AAT).
 
#12662
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
PATB -

Welcome aboard!
The guys above have pretty much given the advice on starting sets, but one thing I want to suggest is this: make sure you have enough room pieces to fill in between the passages! Yes, I know, Room and Passage sets, but the problem is, passages take a LOT of space in that big white box! I know, those were the first sets I bought, all those years ago! I suggest one room or Deluxe room set for each room and passage set.
Beyond that, keep an eye out for individual pieces, because when you have those, you'll feel better about customizing them. NEVER cut up set pieces; always use indies, because that way, you have spares to butcher. And butchering pieces can be the BEST way to get EXACTLY the fit you want for your setup!
Now, I don't recommend butchering right away, and if you're not a model builder anyway, I don't recommend it at all. AND, for that matter, if you can get the exact layout you want WITHOUT chopping up DF pieces, then by all means, don't EVER cut one! BUT, once you have spare parts, if you DO need to cut and are comfortable with custom modeling, go for it.
Again, welcome to the club, and good luck in all your gaming! Tell the kids that gnomes are crazy, but they're much more fun than dwarves!

See ya!

Jim
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#12663
What next? 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
I like all of the philosiphies (sp), but I really think that, if pieces are available, you'll find more for your buck with individual pieces as they are currently running 20-25% off. I think I probably would have gone with a Deluxe Room set instead of the 2nd Room and Passage set. You get some more neat things for $20.00 less.
The sets are really cool to own and easier to store (one big box), but with the current mark-downs on individual pieces, you probably would be better off buying some of the peices such as Massawyrm suggested along with a Cavern set and, if you can afford it, a Cavernous Passage set.
I have a few sites bookmarked that have some of the half-corners, half-walls, and other DF out of stock/hard to find items still in stock. The bookmarks are at home but if you need them, I'll try to grab them tomorrow before I go to work (I work Three 13s FSS).


Welome aboard.


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62 sets and counting. In addition, a boatload of individual pieces or sets of pieces.
 
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