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#11796
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Hey guys,
Well like the title says I'm a college student and dont have much cash. I just got a Starter Set and a DOE. I have to live pay check to pay check but still would like to have my DF collection grow so I can use it as a DM and not have to keep moving peices around. Any tips out there to make my money do more when buying DF? Also are there any sets that are more important to get then others? Please give any tips you can.

Yours in gaming,
Tralik Norwood

PS. I'm really excited that im joining the DF family.
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So I'm a broke History Major at a small college in Michigan but I cant stop buying DF! I dont have a ton of DF but I'm working on geting more as the money comes to me. So far I have 2x DOE 1x Fantasy Starter Set 1x Room and Passage
 
#11797
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
welcome. i gotta warn you though, it's far more of an addiction than a family. it's actually probably created quite a bit of financial tension in many families...

nonetheless, here's my advise:

go for the double tiered boxes, cuz although they are pricier you get waaay more in them.

these i list as the most crucial(in this order):

Fantasy Room & Passage
Caverns
Cavernous Passages
Deluxe Room
Cavernous River(when it comes out)

The next three sets I recommend would be:
Wicked Additions I
Wicked Additions II
Advanced Builder
Narrow Passages(if you can find it)
Octagonal Room

of course the magic items and furniture are crucial, cuz you simply can't have a bare dungeon!
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#11798
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Tralik -

Welcome to the Cuckoo's Nest!
One add-on I would make to dudebird's list, and it DOES go at the bottom, after the Octagonal Room.
Actually 2 add-ons:
Traps
Traps II

You do NOT need these soon, but you WILL want them, because what you can do to a party with these goodies WILL get you tagged "Demon DM of the Year" in your group!
Also, as dude said, furnish, furnish, furnish!
DF has some basic accesories and furniture for dungeons, tables and chairs and benches (oh my!). For further stuff, look at the Discount Hobby web page for their Grendel goodies. The Grendel stuff can be pricey, but it IS worth it. You'll have to paint it, though, so keep that in mind.
If you DO get the Grendel (or other 'must-paint' items), think seriously about using either Tamiya or Testors Model Master acrylic paints, because they have no objectionable odors; that can save your @$$ if you live in the dorms!

Good luck in your gaming, guy!

See ya!

Jim
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#11799
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Also if you want more DF for you $, keep an eye out on E-bay for people dumping, they tried it, but didn't like it and are looking to unload it.
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#11800
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Traps
Traps II

You do NOT need these soon, but you WILL want them, because what you can do to a party with these goodies WILL get you tagged "Demon DM of the Year" in your group!

amen jim.

while you're in the beginning stages pick up a pack or 2 of mage knight traps to tide you over. they're 10 or 20 bucks(should be able to find em on sale) and at least 3 or 4 of them are servicable in any fantasy setting.

also, take advantage of any business' selling out their DF cheap. i found both the cavern and cavernous passages sets at a LGS and they were 50% off. we already had 2 passages, but i went for it anyway. the more the merrier.

happy gaming.
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#11801
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Ebay is a good idea -- looking for discounts is also good.

But a general piece of advice -- get the various "extra" sets you want, the non-basic room sets, and see how many wall/floor pieces you end up accumulating. THEN go for the room sets. Otherwise, you'll end up with WAY more than you need in basic wall/floor pieces. They come with a lot, so you might find that you want 1 room set instead of 3, etc.

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#11802
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Hey guys,
Well like the title says I'm a college student and dont have much cash. I just got a Starter Set and a DOE. I have to live pay check to pay check but still would like to have my DF collection grow so I can use it as a DM and not have to keep moving peices around. Any tips out there to make my money do more when buying DF? Also are there any sets that are more important to get then others? Please give any tips you can.

Yours in gaming,
Tralik Norwood

PS. I'm really excited that im joining the DF family.

Welcome Tralik!

Some here are right about it being more of an addiction than a family for some.
Personally, I see this group as an eccentric Brotherhood (with the occasional sister) who have very strong opinions about gaming and can talk about them usually fairly clearly (that's despite we're from at least four different continents).
My advice: Always be strong in your ideas here too and never shirk from being as strong-minded as others here.
No one here speaks to browbeat, but they will defend their stances.

Where are you from?
You did not include that when you signed up.

It looks like everyone that has responded so far is working on the assumption that you are only or at very least mostly a fantasy gamer and not really in to SF gaming.
My first question is, is this true?
You said you had picked up you picked up "a Starter and a DOE" sets which makes me doubt that you are just a fantasy player or may even not be one depending on what you meant by "Starter".
If you are not a fantasy gamer, then the lists provided by others need to be altered a bit.
More later on this issue.

Second question and answer to yourself - not here, how much financial aid are you on each semester/quarter?
If you are careful and are receving a fair amount, you can pick up two-to-five sets a year easily that way.

I also reaffirm that eBay is a good place to pick up Master Maze at a decent discount price, but do not forget on-line stores like NobleKnight Games though.
They sometimes have Master Maze at really good prices as well.

Also like Dudebird said, stay aware of any Master Maze available at your local game store; there can be awesome discounts there too.
I would add on top of that to keep an eye on veteran gamers in your area; they can be a fickle lot - getting into something for a time and then selling it off to get into something new.
Not even half of the gamers out there are packrats like InvincibleOverlord and myself to name only two of such here on the DF forums {we two are probably the worse though with how long we both have been in gaming and the fact we probably almost never sell off anything}.

So you picked up "a Starter and a DOE"; I started in '98 with fantasy R&P and Diag. Wall sets.
There was only five sets back then and all were fantasy.
I just used them for my SF gaming anyway and also with Warhammer Quest and DungeonBowl.

On to the list:
Dudebird had some really good advice:
go for the double tiered boxes, cuz although they are pricier you get waaay more in them.
He is right here, but unless you are a fantasy gamer, there are only a few of these that are really good for a SF gamer.

Dudebird's list is excellent for a fantasy gamer:
Fantasy Room & Passage
Caverns
Cavernous Passages
Deluxe Room
Cavernous River(when it comes out)

The next three sets I recommend would be:
Wicked Additions I
Wicked Additions II
Advanced Builder
Narrow Passages(if you can find it)
Octagonal Room

of course the magic items and furniture are crucial, cuz you simply can't have a bare dungeon!

Plus Jim's addition of the Traps sets would be good thinking for fantasy gamers.

Of course though, the accessory sets Dudebird mentioned above last are near useless for a SF gamer.

For a SF gamer, the above list proper needs some alterations.
Here is my list of needed sets for a SF gamer, but not inacquisition order {that after the list}:
Starter x2
(yes, more Starters - terribily useful - you might end up at about 4-5 of this set)
Passage x2
(the only way to get more than one of the main passages)
Alpha x2
(2 is the minimum. if you prefer playing in more open areas like hangars, then the number increases rapidly)
Beta x2
(the only SF proper set of the big sets that Dudebird was talking about above - hopefully after DF runs out of the fancy boxes they will combine the Starter and Passage sets into a SF Room&Passage set)
[two of this set is the bare minimum for it - it provides a lot of useful pieces for SF gaming including four per set of badly needed hatch frames]
Caverns x2
(this different type of Master Maze provides a great "real" space to fight out SF battles)
Cavernous Passages x1-2
(depending on how much you like fighting in "dungeon crawl style encounters limits/expands the number of these sets you need, but you do want to get at least one)
Cavernous River(when it comes out) x1-2
[the number here is limited/expanded by two factors -
1: how much you want to fight around bodies of underground water &
2: how expensive this set is going to end up - it could be the most expensive set yet that DF has released - none of us have any idea outside of DF staffers]

Now the acquisition order for a new Master Maze owner for SF gaming:
You already have a (SF) Starter so lets move on from there:
*Passage
*Alpha
*Beta
*Cavern
*Cavernous Passage
*Cavernous River
*Starter
*Starter
*Passage
*Alpha
*Beta
*Cavern
*Alpha

Now, my whole response here could be way off if you are not into SF gaming.
I apologize for possibly wasting your reading time, but hopefully this will be useful then for someone who is into SF gaming.
As I said above, if you are into fantasy gaming, then Dudebird's list with Jim's addition would be really good.

L had some good advice though about buying more of the specialty sets, such as the Wicked Addition ones and the Advanced Builder, before any more room sets.
These three sets will give you a wide variety of setting choices quickly and provide you with differing and, I think, more interesting encounters than just getting more rooms sets right away.

Hope all this helps.
Again, welcome.
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SF: Starter(3), Passage(2), Alpha(7), Beta(2) someday soon;
Cavern: Cavern, Cavernous Passages, many individual pieces, Cavernous River & Wall and Cavernous Lake someday soon;
Fantasy: Room & Passages, Room, Octagonal Room, Wicked Additions I&II, Adv. Builder, Diagonal Walls Set, Dungeon Accessories, Medieval Furniture, many individual pieces.
 
#11803
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Well I must say that I am shocked with how much info you guys have. Its really nice to know that help is just a message away. Fox asked to know a little bit more about me so here is some info for thouse who care. I'm a college student at a small privet college called Adrian College that is in the great state of Michigan. This has been my home state for my whole life and I plan to live here forever. I'm a history major philosophy minor and am mostly into Fantasy games and minis but i have also found myslef picking up some boxes of Star Wars minis from time to time.

As of now i am looking into making my next order sometime in the next few weeks after i get a pay check under my belt and am also surfing the web to find some places to get stuff to make my Maze a little more furnished. I looked at some of the pictures "Tom" put up and can only dream of one day having so much cool stuff!

I thank you all for the tips and hope to talk more soon and become an active member of this site.

Yours in gaming,
Tralik Norwood
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So I'm a broke History Major at a small college in Michigan but I cant stop buying DF! I dont have a ton of DF but I'm working on geting more as the money comes to me. So far I have 2x DOE 1x Fantasy Starter Set 1x Room and Passage
 
#11804
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
My main suggestion for accumulating gaming stuff on a limited budget is: "focus/priority"!!!

It is my experience that you can dump a HUGE amount of $$$ if you attempt to acquire most everything in a short period of time, (2 years in my case) -although this was sufficiently budgeted/planned for in my case, it nonetheless tapped-into my savings on a few occasions.

That being said, please keep in mind that DF is presently re-stocking many key sets/pieces AND producing some awesome new sets (that may be limited productions) in the near future, so your timing is perfect!
With that in mind I would suggest focussing primarily upon DF stuff and perhaps some ??? dungeon furnishings (such as tables, beds, bookcases, treasure etc).

If I were to start buying (fantasy DF) right now I would buy:

1-2 Cavern sets
1-2 Cavernous River Sets
2 Cavern Floor PIECES
4 Straight Cavern Wall PIECES
1 Room & passage set
1-2 Deluxe room sets
3, 6" long walls (2/)
(Any 3 or 4 Cavernous passage PIECES)
4 Upper and Lower Stairs
2 Spiral Stairs
1 Pillars (8/)
1 Slamming and swivelling walls (N/A)
2 4"x6" floor piece
4 Porticullis
? Doors
4-6 Corners, (4/) (N/A)

Of course I'm ommitting a lot of great stuff, (and everyone's setup requirements are different). But there it is.

In my humble opinion, the next BEST way to help "fill" your dungeons is to also build some things from scratch, -please see any of the AMAZING examples from TOM, IO, L and MLV in the "Cool Photos" section.

If you think the advice you've received from members of this forum is good, wait until you see these photos!!! You know what they say, a picture is worth 1000 words.

I hope this helps.
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#11805
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Welcome!

All good advice above. The only thing I can add:

If you think it's too expensive and you start looking at cheaper alternatives - just think that your DF stuff will still be in good shape (generally) in 30 years.

I bought my first set in 2000, hit a spot of shakey employability, got stable in 2004, started buying again in 2005 and have a ton of stuff. My first was Room and Passage set and it is identical to the second Room and Passage set I bought in 2005.

This stuff is quality... seriously. One of my gamer-buddies, a big man of 300 lbs, stepped on a piece (2" straight wall) accidently and it did not break. Not his full weight mind you, we all saw him in time and he just nicked it. Still, he is a BIG man. If it were a card stock or foam piece - it woulda' screamed and disentegrated.

So, for every $100.00 plus I drop on this stuff, I think of that and that I will be using these until the day die (or quit gaming... it's been 25 years or so already).

BTW - do well in school!!
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#11806
Tips for a college student. 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
As of now i am looking into making my next order sometime in the next few weeks after i get a pay check under my belt and am also surfing the web to find some places to get stuff to make my Maze a little more furnished. I looked at some of the pictures "Tom" put up and can only dream of one day having so much cool stuff!

I thank you all for the tips and hope to talk more soon and become an active member of this site.

Yours in gaming,
Tralik Norwood

If you are very much on a budget, there may be some cheap, but still very nice quaility, and can be built sturdy items, that are around that can work to get your DF furnished. Check out a company called World Works Games (there are others, but they have some of the better for fantasy). They produce a line of card stock models you can build to make terrain. While i don't use the "Terrain" for a lot of stuff, the Scenery bits can be great and with a color printer, some card stack and $15 (for the whole set which is lots of bits) you can knock out a whole library in an afternoon, by just printing off the bookcase page a few times and cuting it out and glueing it all together, and have tables, rugs, etc. Something to think about.
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