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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by Rabbit Burner » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:25 am

Interesting that they are trays only as opposed to Terrain Trays that DF have created.

we have no interest in trays but Negative space Terrain floats our carrots.

And DF have combined the two with a magnetic terrain option to boot!

Another example of DF creativity going beyond trend/curve/event horizon.
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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by GODofwar » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:51 pm

These are the Italian guys who make the mines too. Might be fun to compare when each of the products came out with when Trog comments here reached a critical mass of suggestions on mines, mine RR, terrain trays etec...he is clearly marketing to DwF buyers.

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Post by AnimeSensei » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:50 pm

If I remember correctly, that company is the first I saw with magnetic pieces; I think someone had them on the side of a fridge or something to show how strong the magnets were. Quite possibly is the inspiration for DF's change to magnets as well.
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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by William » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:33 pm

Was looking through another threads link and found these. Not that I know anything about them though, I really don't have a need for these trays. https://www.miniworlds-store.com/minidu ... lliche.php
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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by GODofwar » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:02 pm

Concur, with that little space even a few larger plates would be out of place...but you could use 12" wood plates!

I'm a gadget guy. The Terrain plates appealed to me but I restrained myself on the basis I could buy more bling if I did. I get the attraction!

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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by Audles » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:24 pm

That said, I think that position is justified by already having quite a bit of Dwarven Forge. I wouldn't go this route as a first-round item to have.

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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by Audles » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:23 pm

I have made multiple 12x12 terrain boards of my own and still went in hard on these. I'll be dumping the ones I've made. Why? Because they're smaller, better looking and will work better all while taking up less space. The ability to quickly and easily deploy rooms in a variety of formats will dramatically increase the flexibility I have in prepping 5e games.

I think these are super cool and I'm looking forward to using them.

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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by AnimeSensei » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:40 pm

I see the advantages of both. I game in my home, not a garage or a basement, so large boards are just not practical for use in my gaming space. While terrain trays can be cool, for me I would probably rather just buy some high quality cardstock with printed negative space elements on it if I really needed them. I actually prefer stuff like the water set over negative space (with the exception of deep holes where I just use something black like a piece of paper or a black cloth); I like having the tiles for most things. I do have an outdoor green Hotzmat with squares marked, however. But neither plywood or terrain trays really fit 99% of my gaming.
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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by Rabbit Burner » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:10 am

GODofwar wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:08 am
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:05 am
Sorry but while there are cheaper alternatives which also allow you to have the 'terrain' you want exactly, none will be as convenient as what DF are providing.

The main reason ? we do not have to make them :)
Wood or metal will all require working and treating which all takes time which we prefer to spend elsewhere, so when you don't have any they are a very obvious option to your negative space needs.

We want them - so they are of use even if they are no use to others - simple :)
CLearly, Rabbits and Weasels will (and should) have different requirements

I will point out that wood plates take about this much time:
--Tocut a plywood 3/8" 4/x8 sheet into 2x2.5' plates, about 25 minutes (ie, 4 min/plate)

Cost: Probably about $20US, or about $3US per plate.

Spray painting the plywood sheet green: 10 minutes and about $3US.

So the time to prepare is a total of about 35 minutes for 6 plates, 6 minutes a plate. Not much. The cost is about $3.50 per plate. The plates are 5 times as big as a Terrain unit so the unit cost comparison is about 70cents US versus what, $10 us for a terrain plate? 15:1 cost.

Certainly, if people need the magnetic properties, go for it. I"m not trying to persuade Trogs or Rabbits not to get terrain plates of wood instead of DwF plates. They are very different. But the time/$ costs favor wood plates very much.

They are very different, but I suggest that time is a very small factor, and the cost is a WHOLE lot less (


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Thank you for making our case :)

What we didn't emphasise is the size of your plates which is gives us the same problem as geekjeff and that you need two people to deploy them.

You also fail to take into account the time spent acquiring the material, we don't have that material just laying around (though we may have the tools) and no idea if we could order the material via internet with any confidence of accuracy.

Our skills lean more toward earning money to pay skilled professionals, than having the time, equipment and skills to do it ourselves.

Totally envious of your setup and the ability to multiple levels which can be used independently of the other plates. You have done a fantastic job with those :) and so much cheaper than Terrain Trays we really can certainly see the appeal

But its not generally required in wargaming so whilst totally impressed we feel we don't need to look at reproducing it for our game table.

For us the appeal of terrain trays is the ease of use of negative space without the need of an entire mat, again these could be done by hand but to get them thin enough not cause height issues and to be robust enough for repeated use makes purchasing Terrain Trays a very attractive option.

So will agree with the sentiment - Clearly, Rabbits and Weasels will (and should) have different requirements

And honestly have you ever watched rabbits trying to use power tools!?
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Re: Terrain Trays

Post by dice4hire » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:04 am

With that shelf, yes, terrain trays are a no brainer!!1
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