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Re: Tapestries

Post by jchunick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:30 pm

Here's a close-up of the image printed on the material paper... I should also be clear that I didn't prepare it with anything before printing. One of the reasons I stopped my initial experiments was because I wasn't happy with the amount of work needed to print the image on the original pieces of material I had. This paper stuff is no fuss, no muss. And what I like vs. printing on regular paper is that canvas or material texture you get.
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Re: Tapestries

Post by jchunick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:24 pm

Here's a more atmospheric pic with a heroic sized Reaper Bones mini for scale.
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Re: Tapestries

Post by Magniopi » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:15 pm

jchunick wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:02 pm
I wish I could remember the name of the sheet - all that means is a run to Michael's to buy some more and then I can get the name for anyone who is interested.
Definitely interested. That middle one looks great!

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Post by jchunick » Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:02 pm

I decided to finally have some fun experimenting with a sheet of this material that's on a paper-like backing. It comes in a 12"x12" sheet for scrapbooking. I cut it down to 8.5x11 for my colour laser printer, worked my Photoshop magic on a public domain artwork and printed the image. Then I glued it onto some thin chipboard and inserted it into a gold painted resin frame I bought on ebay quite awhile back. The frame is rather large but I've seen some pretty large paintings in the Louvre and the NationAL Gallery in London.

The print came out very well and I didn't have to prepare (gesso) my material before printing on it like I did with the other material. I think this will be the material I use for all the pictures and tapestries I do. I wish I could remember the name of the sheet - all that means is a run to Michael's to buy some more and then I can get the name for anyone who is interested.
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Also to note, the three different materials I have used for these experiments are displayed in this picture. On the left is a stretchy material that was much easier to bend and such (less stiff) and seemed to print better when properly gessoed, the material paper in the frame and the courser canvas material that looked very faded when printing on it without any gessoing. I think the middle picture also has a lot better resolution to it, as well as the colours being more vibrant than the other two. Certainly, it's a lot easier to work with and still has good folding capabilities because of the paper backing. Lastly, the other benefit is less fraying on the edges due to, agian, the paper backing.
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Re: Tapestries

Post by Alphyns » Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:28 pm

Sorry for the thread necromancy.

I've recently started experimenting with trying to make tapestries like this. Has anyone figured out a way to attach and hide magnets so that they can be attached to dwarvenite magnetic walls?

Also, I printed to canvas paper with a laser printer set to rough/heavy but still got a very pale image. Has anyone had better luck with other settings on a laser printer? Alternatively, do these look good if printed on cardstock?

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Re:Tapestries

Post by jchunick » Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:31 pm

jackattack wrote:

Everybody wants to use national parks, but no one wants to take care of them.


Lol! Maybe that's what our Outdoor Recreation program at the local University where I live is for... I always wondered what jobs those kids got after graduation.
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Post by jackattack » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:09 pm

Everybody wants to use national parks, but no one wants to take care of them.
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Re:Tapestries

Post by jchunick » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:26 pm

jackattack wrote:

The thread addressed the point about photographs.

GOOD NEWS: For paintings, drawings and other two-dimensional media, you can use a third-party photo of the public domain artwork if the photo is an exact reproduction or "slavish copying".

BAD NEWS: If there is any originality -- an angle that is not head on, using a fisheye lens, having lighting on one side but not the other -- then you cannot use the third-party photo. Similarly, photos of 3D media such as sculptures do not qualify since there is an artistic aspect to the lighting, camera position, background, etc.


I missed that section. I confess, I read through it rather quick on my phone while eating lunch... and, I was pulling a lot of it from memory instead of specifics from a site on hand.



In a venture that involves reproducing specific images, I would go by specific laws, not what some believe. Especially if money is involved.

Exactly my point. Again, I appreciate you posting the information and the fact that you are aware of the issues. I, myself, like to make sure of such things as well; dot my i's and cross my t's, as it were.



Concerning museums charging for reproductions of artwork, it's not a copyright that gives them the right to charge for (head-on) reproductions, it's the expense of producing them. Restrictions on taking photographs in public museums are not an issue of ownership or access, but preservation. Flash photography (not your one particular flash photograph, but thousands in the course of a year) can actually harm the chemicals in the pigments, typically resulting in fading.
My point was exactly that too. They have ownership/stewardship of the artwork and therefore control it's dissemination/consumption thus can control it's access. The point you make is completely valid about the harm to the artwork that can be caused by flashes, etc. My point was that even some museums believe they have some right that falls under copyright, and they don't.... and on the other side, there are people who feel that they should have unrestricted access so if they take a camera into a museum to take a picture of a public domain artwork then they have every right since that artwork belongs to the public, essentially.
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Re:Tapestries

Post by jackattack » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:05 pm

The thread addressed the point about photographs.

GOOD NEWS: For paintings, drawings and other two-dimensional media, you can use a third-party photo of the public domain artwork if the photo is an exact reproduction or "slavish copying".

BAD NEWS: If there is any originality -- an angle that is not head on, using a fisheye lens, having lighting on one side but not the other -- then you cannot use the third-party photo. Similarly, photos of 3D media such as sculptures do not qualify since there is an artistic aspect to the lighting, camera position, background, etc.


In a venture that involves reproducing specific images, I would go by specific laws, not what some believe. Especially if money is involved.
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Re:Tapestries

Post by jchunick » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:30 pm

jackattack wrote:

This tapestry is called "To My One Desire", one of a series of six called "The Lady and the Unicorn" from Flanders, circa 1510.

Here's a quick-and-dirty explanation of copyright and art that seems fairly credible.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/940560
Thanks for the link. I've done a lot of research into copyright in the past but this was a new area for me when I looked into it this past week. What I found would seem to contradict one of the posters from that link, namely that if someone took a photo of a piece of art then they own the copyright to their photo. Normally this would be correct, however, in the specific case of taking a photo of artwork head on with the purpose of capturing the work as a whole then no copyright can be claimed as there is no unique artistic quality added by the photographer.

As for the "older than 100 years" the general period is correct due to the US law which is the life of the artist + 70 years. But there are other factors such as estates which may have licensing rights.

Lastly, there's nothing in copyright that gives a museum the right to charge for reproductions of art. Again, it's more the fact they have ownership of the art, similar to a private art collector, however with a public museum this becomes rather dubious and some believe a breach of public trust as all public should have unfettered access. I should clarify that I'm referring to works in the public domain.
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