3D MapMaker for KS5

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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by GODofwar » Sun May 21, 2017 11:11 pm

jchunick wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:28 pm
lostpict wrote:I really liked the MapMaker program and used it a lot to help figure out my KS3 plans. It would be great if an update was planned for KS5 including all the Resin and all the Dwarvenite pieces, plus the ability to build in levels, and maybe even include some sort of rotating or perspective view could be incorporated.
That would be very cool. Because I've developed websites and software, and dabbled in 3D this is something I've looked into. From my experience, a project like this - basically, creating an editable and manipulatable 3D environment on the interwebs - would take something like Unity3D to build and wouldn't be a trivial task. All the pieces would have to be either 3D modelled or scanned in 3D, then tweaked/cleaned up. Then you'd have to build an asset management system, a system that would allow you to save builds and probably integrate some sort of community asset sharing system. There is, of course, the environment to still build - an interface with tools to help you manipulate the pieces - a 3D environment that you can move around in, change views, show/hide grids, build features like snap-to, and such... This all would cost a lot of time and money so it would either have to come out-of-pocket, or like the first one, be integrated into a Kickstarter.
I'm not a software guy, but I"ve managed sizeable projects that involved a lot of software development (like what was eventually adopted as the US Army training management program, and the transition of the ARmy Reserves to a computer-based training system). I think you're right, this is a bridge too far.

As a sales tool, I doubt it will bring in new blood- and that is what we need.

I would be perfectly happy with a 2D map update. THAT was a usable service.

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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by jackattack » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:05 pm

I think the MapMaker is a sorely underrated and underutilized sales tool. It should be kept up to date, with updates made alongside KS product releases/announcements. It should be featured much more prominently on the website.

Nothing sells DF like using DF, but no one can actually use a product that hasn't been manufactured yet. Being able to go straight to a simulation of the product is the next best thing, and allows potential buyers to see how things fit together and how many pieces they need for layouts they want to build.

Photo examples are nice, and I encourage those as well, but no number of photos will show every layout, nor answer every question.

It also gives potential pledgers and buyers an opportunity to see what sets won't do, allowing pledgers to bring up potential issues or expansions that might be addressed in the current KS, and possibly referring buyers to additional sets to purchase.

Long story short (too late!), +1.
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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by Harneloot » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:42 am

lostpict wrote:I agree, it is not a trivial at all. I would be happy with 3D models with relevant texture and shape. For that matter, just getting all the current and future resin and dwarvenite in the current tool would be a great step.
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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by lostpict » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:40 pm

I agree, it is not a trivial at all. I would be happy with 3D models with relevant texture and shape. For that matter, just getting all the current and future resin and dwarvenite in the current tool would be a great step.
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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by AnimeSensei » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:40 pm

I know there are several people who are fans of DF that would likely happily do the work and be paid in product. Would be a win-win.
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Re: 3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by jchunick » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:28 pm

lostpict wrote:I really liked the MapMaker program and used it a lot to help figure out my KS3 plans. It would be great if an update was planned for KS5 including all the Resin and all the Dwarvenite pieces, plus the ability to build in levels, and maybe even include some sort of rotating or perspective view could be incorporated.
That would be very cool. Because I've developed websites and software, and dabbled in 3D this is something I've looked into. From my experience, a project like this - basically, creating an editable and manipulatable 3D environment on the interwebs - would take something like Unity3D to build and wouldn't be a trivial task. All the pieces would have to be either 3D modelled or scanned in 3D, then tweaked/cleaned up. Then you'd have to build an asset management system, a system that would allow you to save builds and probably integrate some sort of community asset sharing system. There is, of course, the environment to still build - an interface with tools to help you manipulate the pieces - a 3D environment that you can move around in, change views, show/hide grids, build features like snap-to, and such... This all would cost a lot of time and money so it would either have to come out-of-pocket, or like the first one, be integrated into a Kickstarter.
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3D MapMaker for KS5

Post by lostpict » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:40 pm

I really liked the MapMaker program and used it a lot to help figure out my KS3 plans. It would be great if an update was planned for KS5 including all the Resin and all the Dwarvenite pieces, plus the ability to build in levels, and maybe even include some sort of rotating or perspective view could be incorporated.
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